Updated January 19, 2021 with a comment in the comment section.
Hi,
I belong to Josephte Campbell and Hilaire Nolette’s line.
Josephte was William Alexander’s daughter and thus Alexander Guillaume Ecoisse Campbell’s granddaughter.
I was recently doing work on this line for my family. I did go with the James Campbell and Mary Fisher popular line with no proof.
However, even when doubting it and thinking of deleting it all, I think of how my DNA test backs it up. I believe that I am the last ancestor in my specific family that will have these names in my DNA, as I have 10 to 40 segments coming up for Campbell, Stewart, Fraser, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Gordon, Sinclair, Douglas, Macgregor and a few others such as Tudor??
But, these segments are exact to the James Campbell and Mary Fisher lines. For reasons to complicated to get into, my other grandparents aren’t contributing to this.
I also read the story about Auchinbreck sept 1600 to 1762 and it really points to him going with the 78th Fraser Highlanders and why he would stay in Quebec as the family is bankrupt in 1762.
What do you think of the Colin Fiar Campbell of Glenfalloch and Agnes Drum Goodlatt theory, where people have Alexander 1722 to 1811 listed? I just don’t know, because other children are born in Perthshire.
Is our Alexander William really born in Edinburgh? Anyway, thanks for listening. It’s frustrating to have done all that work for nothing.
Christina…
I can’t help myself writing about dead people…
I met Anna in 2009 on this picture posing with her husband Harry Lagasse and her brother-in-law Victor Philippe Lagasse and his wife Alice Myers.
This picture was taken probably in Bristol, Connecticut, at Pepere’s house.
I got curious in 2009 and I had found these notes on the Internet about the Campbells.
I am sharing them as I found them so some researchers might find them interesting to look at.
Anna’s name is not mentioned. But that’s besides the point of this post.
1. WILLIAM ALEXANDER1 CAMPBELL was born Abt. 1731 in Edinburgh, Scotland, and died March 15, 1811 in L’Acadie, Quebec. He married JOSEPHTE CHARTIER Abt. 1761 in St. Pierre de Becquet, Quebec. She was born Abt. 1744, and died October 22, 1799 in Lapairie, Quebec.
Notes for WILLIAM ALEXANDER CAMPBELL:William Campbell was born in Scotland and was most likely a member of Fraser’s 78th Highlanders. This Highlander regiment fought the French during the French and Indian War at some key battles: Louisbourg and Quebec. At Quebec, on the plains of Abraham, the 78th was directly on the front lines and took many casualties.
There are two William Campbell’s in Capt. Archibald Campbell’s company listed as privates. Neither William is listed as staying in Canada after the war. In addition, there is an Ensign Alexander Campbell who is listed as staying in Canada and purportedly went by the name William. The unit was disbanded in 1763 and many of the members received land grants in Nova Scotia and in the Montreal area.
There is an unsubstantiated story that William and his son Guillaume-Alexander may have moved across the border and fought for the American side during the American Revolution. This has yet to be researched.
The following details were given verbally by Annette Agnes Campbell (born 1885) as told to her by her great-uncle Benoni (born 1805) who knew William Alexander and his story:
“William came to Quebec with the Fraser Highlanders in 1759 to fight for the English against the French regiments of Montcalm at the plains of Abraham. It seems that after the war he was not allowed to return to Scotland having opposed fighting the French regiments possibly knowing that Scotsmen were on Montcalm’s side because of the Auld Alliance.
William married Josephte Chartier at a yet unknown site then settled at Laprairie, later at Ruisseau des Noyan (L’Acadie, Quebec) where he raised his family. He had adopted the Catholic religion.
William Campbell died at L’Acadie. The funeral was held on March 3, 1811. He was reported to be 80 years old, born possibly in Edinburgh in 1731. At his death, William lived with his son Alexander William”.
Also the following reference: One of the Campbells who chose to be discharged in Canada was William Campbell, who was born in 1731 in Edinburgh. He was a member of Captain Archibald Campbell’s company. He married Josephine Chartier from St Pierre les Becquets and settled first at Laprairie, Quebec and then at l’Acadie near St Jean Quebec. In 1992 one of his many francophone descendants is Dr Maurice Campbell of Trois Rivieres (Cap de la Madeleine) a member of the Quebec Chapter of the Clan Campbell Society of North America.”
The above has been extracted [p. 33] from “Lords of the North (1997) by James K. McDonell & Robert B. Campbell.
William is buried a Ste. Marguerite de Blairfindie in L’Acadie, Quebec. The grave is unmarked which his descendants hope to rectify soon. rev. 9/01/2001
Notes for JOSEPHTE CHARTIER:The ancestry of Marie-Josephte Chartier is subject to much debate. Several respected genealogists purport that Marie Josephte is the daughter of Jean Chartier ( ne John Carter) who was kidnapped by the Indians at the Deerfield, MA massacre and brought to Canada. This daughter was born 1729/32.
Marie-Josephte’s death record, however, indicates that she was 55 years old when she died suddenly in 1799 putting her date of birth to circa 1744. At this birthday, she would have ceased having children in her early thirties which would have been unusual.
The marriage contract of Hyppolite/Paul Campbell lists a Jacques Samoisette as “Cousin”, tracing this ancestry of the man, via his mother Angelique Gagnon and his grandmother Isabelle Chartier, wife of Pierre Gagnon, indicates that Marie Josette will PROVE to be the granddaughter of Michel Chartier II (who had children by three wives and was settled around St. Francois-du-Sud and Montmagny.
A daughter of Louis Chartier, Marie Josette was born 5 Dec 1732, Berthier-sur-Mer. Contrary to Tanguay, she did NOT marry 12 Nov 1770 at Longue-Point, Montreal, to Jean-Baptiste Archambault: that woman was a Chartier dit Robert. Jean Robert in his five Vols. on the Chartier family carries the Archambault marriage correctly on the Chartier dit Robert family but follows Tanguay’s error on pg 201 of his volume of Michel Charter’s descendents. With a birth year of 1732, she would have ceased bearing children at 44 which is reasonable. The death record age of 55 would then have to be an error as she would have had to been 67.
Marriage Notes for WILLIAM CAMPBELL and JOSEPHTE CHARTIER:The marriage record of William and Josephte has not been found but references note the location as Deschambault, P.Q. Children of WILLIAM CAMPBELL and JOSEPHTE CHARTIER are: 2.i. JOSEPHTE2 CAMPBELL, b. November 17, 1761, Deschambault, Quebec; d. May 22, 1828, Laprairie, Quebec.3.ii. GUILLAUME-ALEXANDRE CAMPBELL, b. Abt. 1763, L’Acadie, Quebec; d. February 25, 1849, Henryville, Quebec.4.iii. FELICITIE CAMPBELL, b. July 04, 1768, St. Philippe, LaPrairie; d. November 26, 1821, L’Acadie, Quebec. iv. MARGUERITE CAMPBELL, b. Abt. 1770, L’Acadie, Quebec; d. December 02, 1786, St. Philippe, LaPrairie; m. JEAN-BAPTISTE BOUTIN, February 21, 1786, St. Phillipe, Laprairie, Quebec.5.v. PIERRE JEREMIE CAMPBELL, b. October 12, 1770, L’Acadie; d. May 14, 1847, Henryville, Quebec.6.vi. PAUL CAMPBELL, b. October 18, 1774, St. Philippe, LaPrairie; d. Abt. 1847, St. Athanase.7.vii. MICHEL CAMPBELL, b. March 07, 1776, Laprairie, Quebec; d. L’Acadie.
CAMPBELL FAMILY
Background:
Michel Campbell (Guillaume Campbell and Marie-Josephte Chartier) m. 20 November 1797, Chambly
Marie-Desanges Dumas (Etienne Dumas and Marie-Josephte Piedalue)
Josephte Chartier, of this parish, wife of Guillaume Cambel, age about 55 years, buried 24 October 1799, Lacadie, P.Q., d. 23 October.
Guillaume Campbell, b. Scotland, d. 15 March l8ll, L’Acadie, P.Q., bur 17 March, widower of Josephte Cartier, aged about 80 years.
NOTE: the marriage of Guillaume/William Campbell and Marie-Josette Chartier has never been located. He was almost certainly a demobilized soldier of the Seven Years War. The marriage probably took place about 1760/61 in the region of Deschambault. The oldest daughter, Marie-Josette “Oiam”, was baptized 17 November 1761, Deschambault, of “Guillaume Ecossais” and Marie-Josette Chartier, Canadienne. “William the Scotsman” was very probably William Campbell, of either Fraser’s Highlanders or Montgomery’s Highlanders. There was also a William Campbell in the 47th British Regiment, Seven Years War.
If William Campbell was a soldier from Fraser’s Highlanders, the missing marriage was probably performed by the Rev. Robert MacPherson, Presbyterian chaplain of the regiment.
Contrary to the assumption of M. Jean Robert in his five volumes on the Chartier family, Marie-Josette Chartier, wife of Guillaume Campbell, cannot have been the daughter of Jean Chartier/John Carter and Marie Courtemanche, for their daughter Marie-Josette Chartier died unmarried at age 18, as recorded in the registers of both St-Denis-sur-Richelieu and St-Antoine-sur-Richelieu.
The marriage contract of Hypolite/Paul Campbell, son of the above couple, lists a Jacques Samoisette as “cousin”. Tracing the ancestry of this man via his mother Angelique Gagnon and his grandmother Isabelle Chartier, wife of Pierre Gagnon, indicates that Marie-Josette Chartier will prove to be a granddaughter of Michel Chartier II (who had children by three wives and was settled around St-Francois-du-Sud and Montmagny).
Tanguay contains an error which will perhaps prove pertinent here. Michel Chartier II and his second wife Anne Picard dit Destroismaisons had a son Louis, b. 24 January 1707, Berthier-sur-Mer, and buried 29 July 1748, St-Vallier. He married 26 April 1728, Berthier-sur-Mer, to Madeleine Lefebvre/Boulanger (Pierre Lefebvre/Boulanger and Francoise Fournier). She remarried 1 July 1748 at St-Vallier to J.F. Hayot.
A daughter of Louis Chartier, Marie-Josette, was born 5 December 1732, Berthier-sur-Mer. Contra Tanguay, she did NOT marry 12 November 1770 at Longue-Pointe, Montreal, to Jean-Baptiste Archambault: that woman was a Chartier-dit-Robert. M. Jean Robert in his five volumes on the Chartier family carries the Archambault marriage correctly in his volume on the Chartier dit Robert, but follows Tanguay’s error on p. 201 of his volume on Michel Chartier’s descendents.
It is true that this daughter would have been twelve years older than Guillaume Campbell’s wife IF her death record is correct about her age. However, there is one aspect of the Campbell family records which indicates that this woman may well have been older. The children of Guillaume/William Campbell and Marie-Josette Chartier may be listed as follow:
1. Marie-Josette Campbell, baptized 17 November 1761, Deschambault, and married 1783 at St-Philippe-de-Laprairie to Pierre Boutin [many descendents–this couple both buried at Napierville].
2. Guillaume-Alexandre Campbell [b.c. 1763?], married 17 November 1788, Lacadie, to Josephte Bisaillon [many descendents].
3. Marguerite Campbell [b.c. 1765?], m. 1736, Lacadie, to J.B. Boutin. He m. (2) in 1789 at Lacadie to M. Mad. Tremblay, so she died young.
4. Felicite Campbell [b.c. 1767?], m. 1791, Lacadie, to Francois Thiriac dit Laforest [many descendents].
5. Pierre Jeremie Campbell, bap. 13 October 1770, Laprairie. Godparents Paul Denault and Marie Charlotte Pinsonnault. m. 1790, St-Philippe, to Marie-Anne Rondel/Dubois (Jacques at Catherine Babeux). At least two daughters who married.
6. Paul/Hyppolite Campbell [b.c. 1772?], m. (1) 1795 at Laprairie to Felicite Bourdeau and (2) 1834 at St-Athanase to Francoise Choquette [many descendents].
7. Michel Campbell, bap. 8 March 1776, St-Philippe, born the preceding day. Godparents: Michel Surprenant and Clotilde Lapierre. m. 1797, Chambly, Marie-Desanges Dumas [many descendents].
A search of the records of St-Philippe, St-Constant, Laprairie, and Chambly indicates no more baptisms for this couple after 1776, not even of children who later died. Documents would indicate that Guillaume and Marie-Josette continued living together. If she were 55 at her death, she would have ceased child-bearing at the age of 32. This was NOT common for a French-Canadian woman. On the other hand, if she were the daughter of Louis Chartier born in 1732, she would have ceased childbearing at the age of 44, which was about average.
Antoine Campbell (Michel Campbell and Desanges Dumas) m. 6 May 1822, Lacadie
Emelie Alexandre (Jacques Alexandre and Josette Bonneau)
Alexandre Campbell (Michel Campbell and Desanges Dumas) m. 9 October 1827, Lacadie
Josette Perron (Louis Perron and Olive Charland)
Zoe Campbell, age 21 (Alexandre and Jovite Perron) m. 7 May 1853, St. Joseph’s Corbeau, Coopersville, N.Y.
Louis Patnaude, age 23 (Louis Patnaude and Marguerite Bourque).
Bap. 10 September 1831, Lacadie, Josephte, born 22 March last of Antoine Campbell and Emmelie Alexandre of Halburg, U.S.
Bap. 3 September 1834, Lacadie, Marie Odille, dau. of Antoine Campbell and Emilie Alexandre of St. Albourn.
Bap. 6 July 1844, at St-Georges-d’Henryville, Abraham, age 3 years, of the legitimate marriage of Antoine Campbell and Emilie Alexandre of Alburg, U.S.
Bap. 2 July 1837, Lacadie, Joseph, b. 4 January 1836 of the legitimate marriage of Antoine Campbell and Emelie Alexandre of Albourg, U.S.
Bap. 25 May 1834, Lacadie, Alexandre Campbell, son of Alexandre Campbell and Jovite Perron.
Bap. 6 July 1844, St-Georges-d’Henryville, Jean Baptiste, born 20 June last of the legitimate marriage of Alexandre Campbell and Jovite Perron of Alburg, U.S. Godfather Michel Bombardier; godmother Virginie Perron.
Emilie Campbell m. Antoine Bombardier and resided at Alburgh, Vt. 8 May 1846, buried at St. Joseph’s Corbeau, Coopersville, Clinton Co., N.Y., Antoine LaBombardie, d. day before yesterday at Alburge, spouse of Melie Cambel, aged about 25 years. A son, Joseph Bombardier, bap. 1844, St-Georges-d’Henryville.
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1. Antoine Campbell, b. 1822, Canada–d. 25 August 1903, Franklin Co., N.Y. Civil War veteran. Freeman 1858, Isle la Motte. m. 1 May 1847, Isle la Motte, Vt., Caroline LaBombard, b. 1829, Canada–d. 25 July 1903, Franklin Co., N.Y., dau. of Michel and Therese/Sadie (Hall/Hale) LaBombard.
2. Antoine Camel, b. c. 1793/97, Canada. m. Mary /Emilie Alexandre, b. c. 1804, Canada.
1850 census, Alburgh, Vt.; 1860 census, Isle la Motte, Vt., 1870 census, Alburgh, Vt.
2.1 Sarah Campbell, b. c. 1826, Canada.
2.2 Josephte Campbell, b. 22 March last, Alburg, U.S. Baptized 10 September 1831, Lacadie.
2.3 Marie Odille Campbell, b. St. Albourn, bap. 3 September 1834, Lacadie.
2.4 Joseph Camel, b. c. 1836, Vt. Joseph Campbell, b. 4 January 1836, Albourg, U.S., baptized 2 July 1837, Lacadie.
2.5 Pheba Camel, b. c. 1838, Vt.
2.6 Abraham Campbell, b. c. 1841/42, Vt. Bap. 6 July 1844, St-Georges-d’Henryville, Abraham Campbell, age 3 years, parents of Alburg, U.S.Godparents: Joseph Perron and Cecile Chatelle. Possibly m. as a resident of Alburgh, Vt., Church of the Nativity, Swanton, Vt., 1 May 1865, as a son of Antoine Campbell and Marie Boneau, to Merentia Raymond, daughter of Nazaire Raymond and Flavia Coise(?) of Swanton, Vt.
2.6.1 Abraham Campbell, b. 22 July 1866, baptized 12 August 1866, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Hyppolyte Houle and Euphrosine Bricot dit Lamarche.
2.7 George Campbell, b. c. 1843, Vt. Possibly m. Eulalie/Eudolie/Delia Dubois. If so, he had the following children:
2.7.1 Martine Campbell, b. 28 March 1869, baptized 16 August 1869, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Michael Kelly and Angelique Dubois.
2.7.2 Mary Joanna Campbell, b. 18 March 1870, baptized 12 May 1872, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Alexandre Lavoie and Helene Lecourt.
2.7.3 Eugene Campbell, b. 15 May 1872, baptized 29 June 1872, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Gedeon Dubois and Marie Dubois.
2.7.4 Gertrude Campbell, b. 18 March 1874, baptized 17 February 1877, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Cheri Rocheford and Louise Defayette.
2.7.5 Alfred Campbell, b. 1878, bap. 12 April 1878, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents John Farrand and Marie Anne Gagnier.
2.7.6 Josephine Campbell, b. 15 March 1880, baptized 15 August 1880, Redford, Clinton Co., N.Y. Godparents Antoine Pare and Emma Besset.
2.8 Ann Eliza Camel, b. c. 1841/45, Vt.
2.9 Albert/Arthur Campbell, b. c. 1846, Vt. m. Angelina/Angelique Wood/Dubois, dau. of Jed and Lydia (Parot) Wood/Dubois.His widow m. (2) _____ Gaston and (3) Abram Wells.
2.9.1 Henry Campbell, b. c. 1872, Saranac, N.Y. m. 1 December 1894, Grand Isle, Vt., Gertie Blow.
2.9.2 Maud Emma Campbell, b. c. 1877, Saranac, N.Y. m. 24 July 1895, Grand Isle, Vt., Charles Blow.
2.10 Job Campbell/Jobe Camel, b. c. 1849/50, Vt.
3. Alexander Campbell, b. c. 1804, Canada. m. Zoa /Jovite Perron, b. c. 1809, Canada. 1860 census, Alburgh, Vt.
3.1 Zoe Campbell, b. c. 1832. m. at age 21, 7 May 1853, St. Joseph’s Corbeau, Coopersville, Clinton Co., N.Y., Louis Patnaude, age 23, son of Louis Patnaude and Marguerite Bourque.
3.2 Alexandre Campbell, bap. 25 May 1834, Lacadie.
3.3 Moses Campbell, b. c. 1841, Canada. Moyse Campbell, son of Alex. Campbell and Zoe Perron of Princeville, m. 12 November 1861, St-Georges-d’Henryville, Florence Ledoux, dau. of Joseph(?) Ledoux and Marguerite Fontaine of the seigneury of St. Thomas de Foucault.
3.4 Jean Baptiste Campbell, b. 20 June last, Alburg, U.S., baptized 6 July 1844, St-Georges-d’Henryville. Godparents: Michel Bombardier and Virginie Perron.
3.5 Giles Campbell, b. c. 1848, Vt.
3.6 Henry Campbell, b. c. 1850, Vt.
3.7 Deby Ann Campbell, b. c. 1852, Vt. Possibly the same as Celina, bap. 11 September 1852, St. Georges d’Henryville, age 1 year and 12 days. Parents Alexandre Campbell and Zoe Perrault of Albourg, U.S. Godparents: Jean Baptiste Bombarbier and Zoe Campbell. Celina Campbell, age 20 years, m. 22 October 1871, Alburg, Vt., St. Amadeus Church, John Bourret, 21 years, son of David Bourret and Adeline St. James.
3.8 Michel Cambel. m. 24 June 1858, Church of the Nativity, Swanton, Vt., Aloysia Zavaria, dau. of Joseph Savaria and Olive Equit.
NOTE: Joseph Savaria/Sabre (Jean-Baptiste Savaria and Catherine Dussault) m. 11 January 1825, Napierville, Olive Hethier/Ethier (Jean-Baptiste Ethier dit Quay dit Dragon and Agathe Dubeau).
3.8.1 Mathilda Campbell, dau. of Michel Campbell and Louise Savaria, m. 12 October 1874, Alburg, Vt., Geo. Breslt/Bristlo, age 26 years, of Texas.
4. Flavie Campbell. m. Baptiste Latour/Jean-Baptiste Noel dit Latour. Resided at Alburgh, Vt.
4.1 Olive Latour, age 2 years, buried 23 July 1847, St. Joseph’s Corbeau, Coopersville, Clinton Co., N.Y.
4.2 Zoe Noel dit Latour. m. 13 April 1863, Church of the Nativity, Swanton, Vt., Henry LaBombarde, son of Joseph LaBombarde and Aloysia Laberge of Alburgh, Vt.
4.3 Benjamin Noel, baptized 4 October 1842, St-Georges-d’Henryville, born 3 April. Parents reside at Alburg. Godparents: Antoine Tetreau and Sophie Lavoie.
Next time Lovely Rita
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Our Ancestors 
Fascinating – I’m in awe of your ability to persevere and put all of this together 🙂
Fascinating indeed when I read some older posts like Amanda.
I am truly a family man. I feel so close to my grandfather’s brother’s family.
All this started with someone who stopped sharing what little informatio he had in 2009. He never gave any explanation why he stopped, and no… he did not die from a heart attack.
But I don’t mind…
Well I guess I do a little.
Of course you mind 🙂 The past defines us and deserves to be acknowledged and shouted from the highest pillar 🙂
Some shout… I write…
About fascination…
The next series of posts is about Lovely Rita.
It could last the rest of the year if I want to…
Obviously – Rita was after all “lovely”. That in itself deserves volumes 🙂
Prepare yourself Notes…
Next post is on September 15, 2044
Can you wait that long?
About Rita…
Who do you think she is on that picture?
Sorry I have not posted her picture yet…
Got mixed-up.
Here you go,,,
Now try guessing who she is.
Yikes 🙂
Yikes indeed…
wow, wow, wow, you are a very prolific writer…….like a dog to a bone you are! The more mysteries you solve they better you get! You’ve got a lot of experience:-)
Is Horatio your pet dog?
🙂 hahaha
Best regards. I am responsible for the first info on William and Josephte Campbell. Much research has been done since. If I can help anyone who believes this to be their family line then please advise.
Thank you for your comment.
If anyone wants information, I will contact you.
Anna had two sons: one died in 1935 and the other I have little to go on.
Hi, I belong to Josephte Campbell and Hilaire Nolette’s line. Josephte was William Alexander’s daughter and thus Alexander Guillaume Ecoisse Campbell’s granddaughter. I was recently doing work on this line for my family. I did go with the James Campbell and Mary Fisher popular line with no proof. However, even when doubting it and thinking of deleting it all, I think of how my DNA test backs it up. I believe that I am the last ancestor in my specific family that will have these names in my DNA, as I have 10 to 40 segments coming up for Campbell, Stewart, Fraser, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Gordon, Sinclair, Douglas, Macgregor and a few others such as Tudor?? But, these segments are exact to the James Campbell and Mary Fisher lines. For reasons to complicated to get into, my other grandparents aren’t contributing to this. I also read the story about Auchinbreck sept 1600 to 1762 and it really points to him going with the 78th Fraser Highlanders and why he would stay in Quebec as the family is bankrupt in 1762. What do you think of the Colin Fiar Campbell of Glenfalloch and Agnes Drum Goodlatt theory, where people have Alexander 1722 to 1811 listed? I just don’t know, because other children are born in Perthshire. Is our Alexander William really born in Edinburgh? Anyway, thanks for listening. It’s frustrating to have done all that work for nothing. Christina…
I have not work on this since I am not closely related. Thank you for your comment.
I will feature it as an update on that very post. People who have an interest will find it much easier than looking at the comment section.
William Alexander Campbell was my 7 times Great-Grandfather through Felicite. I would like to learn more about William and my Scottish Heritage. Please email me.
Thanks for the add. William Campbell is my 5th great-grandfather. I am a descendant through his son Guillaume. About 12 years ago I began looking for information on William, and Dennis Campbell, along with a few cousins, had the information I was looking for. He even sent me an extended family photo of my great-grandparents (Jules Campbell & wife) and great-great grandparents (Julien Campbell & wife) along with several others. It was taken about 10 years before my great-grands sold their farm in Quebec and moved to Vermont. I still have that pic in a frame, so thanks again Dennis! Too bad about the fire in Kew, England that destroyed records so we can’t go back further. I suppose we will meet everyone in heaven someday! Michele Pecoraro
Hi Michele,
There was a fire in Kew, England. Are you referring to there being no way to trace Alexander William Campbell back in Scotland before he was in the 78th regiment of the Fraser Highlanders here in North America. If you could please share any info on this. I am getting ready to give up. It’s a shame, because anyone from this line has very interesting DNA tied in with the Stewarts and other nobility of that time. But, there’s no way to prove what line that is exactly.
Anything you feel like sharing be my guest.
I have undisputable proof, with documentation, of some very important details with regards to William Campbell and his wife, Marie.
First, I have paperwork which proves William Campbell was a member of the 78th Regiment of Foot, or Fraser’s Highlanders. This paperwork places William together with Major James Abercrombie of the 78th.
Secondly, I also have paperwork which will prove Marie Josephte Chartier (b. 1732) to be the daughter of Louis Chartier and Marie Madeleine Lefebvre dit Boulanger. This will finally put to rest any theories about Marie being the daughter of anyone else.
Finally, I have definitive paperwork which lists William’s full name as Alexander William Campbell. I find this quite compelling, because this is the first instance where we see a different forename for him.
All documentation is archived on the LDS website, http://www.familysearch.org, located on William’s personal ‘Memories’ page. William’s PID# is: KP3R-TZJ.
Or, you can contact me directly and I’ll be happy to email anyone these recently discovered documents from the Quebec National Archives.
Best,
Jeffrey
I have seen your comment Jeffrey. I just deleted your email address.
Okay, thank you.
Check your email inbox.
Hi Jeffery,
I am interested to know more. I am from Josephte Campbell and Hilaire Nolette. Her father was Guillaume Alexander Campbell 1763 and thus her grandfather is the notorious Alexander William Ecosse Campbell 1722 to 1731. I spent a lot if time, getting caught up on Ancestry with incorrect information, I really feel like writing them as you pay money and it’s all wrong information after a point. Anyway, my DNA does show Campbell, Stewart, Sinclair, Fraser, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Gordon/Seton and even Tudor. So it does somewhat match the mistaken ancestry line. So the real answer has to be close. Just frustrated at this point and any information you can share would be very appreciated. Christina
I will try to contact people who have commented. I am not directly related to the Campbells. I know Ancestry has a lot of wrong information that people put in there and it can be quite aggravating.
Christina,
With regards to James Campbell and Mary Fisher as potential parents of William Campbell, there is no evidence I’ve seen to support this theory other than common names. Might as well throw a dart at a piece of paper and see where it sticks.
A potential birth year for William of 1722 was taken from the (one-off) 1784 (I believe) census of Laprairie, Quebec, and it’s the only document available of that nature. We all know how accurate census records are! Take it with a grain of salt. His death announcement of a potential birth in 1730/31 is probably more accurate, because Josephte died at age 67, in 1799.
A general military order was issued by General James Murray, in 1759, prohibiting British soldiers from marrying French ladies. And, I’ve yet to find any « recorded » marriages for British soldiers during the war, 1757-1763. I did get lucky and found a « marriage request » c.1760-61 for a soldier in the 78th, most likely discharging the army. Point being is, there’s no evidence currently available to support our ancestor’s potential « legal » marriage.
With regards to a potential Edinburgh birthplace for our ancestor, I’ve analyzed known birthplaces and residences for 298 soldiers of the 78th Regiment, which represents about 20 percent of the soldiers, and only 2 (two) soldiers are proven to have been from the Edinburgh area – 2 of 298!
Personally speaking, I do believe the key will be in the DNA, as there does not seem to be any other paperwork available. However, another aspect completely overlooked by researchers is where William enlisted in the army. About two years ago, I performed an analysis on his potential residence during the recruiting stage, in 1757-59, from available records of the 78th Regiment, and I’ve narrowed his recruiting officer’s residence down to the Glen Lyon/Taymouth/Castle Menzies area of Perthshire, Scotland.
I would be happy to send you the 30-page report in pdf format at no charge only if your promise not to post it online, as I do offer it for sale on my Blog. Pinky swear? :-)). You can send me an email at frasers78th@gmail.com and I’ll forward it right over.
Jeffrey
Nice gesture Jeffrey.
I just wrote you a personal email.
I will update all this an provide your email address after we have talked.
Following up with the missing marriage record for William Campbell and Marie Josephte Chartier, I have uncovered evidence in the form of a general military order, issued by [presumably] General Murray, commander of British Forces in Quebec after the death of General James Wolfe, stating: “The general desires that the commanding officers of the Regts. [regiments] will not suffer their men to mary [sic] the French.’ Dated at Quebec, 6 October 1759. Translation: British soldiers were not permitted to marry the local ladies during that stage of the war in Canada.
This would explain the missing marriage record for our ancestor ca. 1761, the year of the birth of their first daughter. More importantly, it solidifies the couple most likely never legally married; perhaps they handfasted their relationship?
As always, those requiring a copy of the document for their personal records please advise.
Best,
Jeffrey
Love it!
Will update this in a new post later Jeffrey.
My former and deceased husband’s parents were Nellie Walker and Raymond Campbell. Raymond’s cousin was a Mabel Mott whose mother’s maiden name was Campbell BUT her grandfather was a Job Campbell. I KNEW that when I discovered Antoine Campbell I was onto something, but I for some reason, didn’t put Mabel together with Antoine and Raymond until this happened! So much for the Campbells being all FRENCH! Also Raymond’s mother, Nellie Walker may have been related to an Elmer (last name, used to be ‘Aylmer’ from England! ) who was one of the first settlers who went with Thomas Hooker to settle CT.
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No, I’m sorry! My former and deceased husband’s parents were Bernadette (Lauzon) and Raymond Campbell. Raymond’s parents were Nellie (Walker) and Fred Campbell. Both men were house painters and alcoholics.