Genealogy runs in my veins… Take 5

People who don’t know me well must be scratching their head.

Pierre 039

Who’s this guy writing this blog about my ancestors?

Stop scratching and start reading, but not all the posts I wrote since September 2009. There are more than 500!

Donna wrote a comment and she finally had the key to find more about Our Ancestors and her ancestors.

If Odna Lagasse is on this picture, and I am sure she is…

Odna Lagasse

then I think this is also Odna Lagasse, the daughter of Dennis Lagasse III and Amanda Ménard. She is seen here on this picture with her brother Levi Napoleon Lagasse, last row on the left and her sister Ida Lagasse, last row on the right…

Odna Lagasse with brother Levi Napoleon and Ida Lagasse

Ida always has a big smile. One day some of her descendants will find her on the Internet. It’s just a matter of time.

Who could be sitting beside Odna on the right of the picture?

I was really scratching my head before Donna’s comment because I first thought that Odna was Bertha…

Odna Lagasse with her husband

Odna’ husband was Frank Ritchie and he was the father of both William Ritchie and Robert Ritchie who both died in WWII?

William Ritchie and Robert RitchieWilliam and Robert Ritchie

What do you think?

Is Frank Ritchie beside Odna Lagasse?

Frank Ritchie

Looks like it doesn’t it?

Odna M. Ritchie was a Gold Star Mother, but you already know that.

Edna's obitWas Frank Ritchie a Gold Star Father?

I don’t think they gave medals for father losing two sons in WWII.

Footnote

Obituaries are a great source for finding relatives even if there are errors sometimes. This is why you have to double and triple check every information.

As for Odna Lagasse born on October 18, 1893, we now have precious pictures of her and maybe pictures of her husband Frank Ritchie.

Footnote to the footnote

If you are asking yourself if I have found Frank Richie’s ancestors also…

What do you think?

Frank Ritchie

Genealogy runs in my veins… Take 4

Post No. 506!

Hard to stop looking for ancestors?

You can bet on it.

Hard to stop looking also for other people’s ancestors?

You can bet on it also.

I got this request this morning. Coffee had to wait.

Pierre,

I hope all is well.

I have found from another source that Mélodie Hogue’s husband is not named Joseph Orphire Levesseur, but Joseph Zephire Levasseur.  I have attached the marriage act.  Would please translate this for me?  I think I see the father as Hippolyte Moreau.  I see a former wife of Marie Beauregard.  The mother could possibly be Rita Desser…

Anyway, I am sure you are much better at this and I, and I appreciate your
help.

Thank you.

I wanted to take a break during this summer and come back only in September to talk about that picture that has been haunting me since 2009.

famille Hogue vers 1910

Sometimes You Say Things That Come Back to Haunt You

Sometimes you say things that come back to haunt you like this comment I had left on Ancestry forum…

If you live in Massachusetts and you are looking for your roots…

I know a lot about André Mignier the ancestor of all the Lagasses, Lagacés, LaGasses namely Adolph Lagasse and Idola LaGasse who lived in Massachusetts

And the best part of it… It’s free.

Well sometimes you say things about your ancestors that come back to haunt you… 

Not all the Lagasses, Lagacés, LaGasses… are descendants of André Mignier.

There is a Lagasse family that settled in New Orleans in the 1860s.

Henri Jean Lagasse came from France with his wife Mathilde Dazet. They already had a daughter Marie born in France when they emigrated to the U.S. in 1859.

Henri Jean Lagasse and Mathilde (Mathilda) Dazet had more children…

I will have to learn not to make statements without being 100% sure.

Anyway, Mary Helen has found her late husband’s ancestors and she knows a little more about her husband’s roots in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Finally, about part of the statement I made…

And the best part of it… It’s free.

Everything I find and write about Our Ancestors is always free.

About Henri Jean Lagasse, all my articles are here.

Genealogy runs in my veins… Take 3

Post No. 257!

As promised…

Here is the translation in French of the two messages left on the forum…

Paul’s message left in 2000.

Mon nom est Paul Chandler. Ma mère s’appelle Sarah Glory Chandler. Mon grand-père est Henry Glory. Mon arrière-grand-mère était Annie Mary Lagasse Glory (1894-1970). Mon arrière-arrière-grand-père était Joseph Lagasse (1873?-1957). Mon arrière-arrière-arrière-grand-père était Henry Lagasse (1831-1909). CE Henry était marié à Mathilda Dazet, et selon leur monument à  Lafayette #2 (PAS L#1 de l’autre côté de la rue Commander’s Palace) ils étaient tous deux originaires de France. Henry et Mathilda eurent deux fils et trois filles. Les fils étaient Paul (1862-1935) et Joseph (mon ancêtre). Joseph eut au moins 11 enfants. Paul eut au moins 13 enfants. Chaque fils eurent beaucoup de fils à un tel point que je suis parent à tous les Lagasse dans la ville sauf le célèbre  Emeril qui vient du Nord des États-Unis. Paul eut un fils Henry qui eut un fils nommé Henry. Joseph eut deux Henry (un décédé lorsqu’il était nourrisson).

Quel Henry est ton grand-père? Je pense que le premier Henry vint à la Nouvelle-Orléans avant la guerre de Sécession.

Grace’s reply

Eh bien, ça parle au diable, Paul tu es parent avec moi!

Mon grand-père était Joseph Robert Lagasse (18 mars 1899 – 17 avril  1954). Il a marié ma grand-mère, Mary Gerdes Cook le 6 août 1919 en la paroisse Our Lady of Good Counsel Catholic à la Nouvelle-Orléans.

Il était le fils de Joseph Lucien Lagasse, mon arrière-grand-père, ton  arrière-arrière-grand-père. J’ai vu un point d’interrogation à côté de sa date de naissance. Il est né le 17 janvier 1872. Il a marié Josephine Schneeburger (pas certaine de la date) à la Nouvelle-Orléans et il est décédé le 14 août 1957 à la Nouvelle-Orléans.

Mon arrière-arrière-grand-père était Henri Jean Lagasse, qui était ton arrière-arrière-arière grand-père. Il était né en  France (pas certaine où) le 9 mai 1831 et est décédé à la Nouvelle-Orléans le 4 décembre 1909. Il a marié Matilde Dazet quelque part en France parce que premier enfant, Marie ou Mary, est née en 1857 en France selon le recensement de 1880.

J’ai trouvé Matilda Dazet, à l’âge vénérable de 70 ans et Henri Jean Lagasse, âgé de 69 ans, dans le recensement américain de 1900. Cela confirme leur mariage en 1859 en France…. sans toutefois indiqué l’endroit. Intéressant car il aurait eu Mary avant leur mariage. Le recensement de 1900 indique que ses parents sont nés également en France. En 1900, on lit que Matilde a encore 5 enfants vivants des 7 enfants qu’elle a eus. De plus, j’ai trouvé deux manifestes de navires avec le nom d’Henri Jean Lagasse.

VOICI LE PREMIER MANIFESTE D’HENRI JEAN LAGASSE

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 à propos d’Henri Lagasse
Nom: Henri Lagasse
Date d’arrivée: 28 août 1898
Année de naissance: vers 1831
Âge: 67 ans
Sexe: mâle
Ethnie/Race-/Nationalité: américain
Originaire de: États-Unis
Port du départ: Havre
Port d’arrivée: New York, New York
Nom du navire: La Touraine

LE DEUXIÈME MANIFESTE indique, parce que je ne l’ai pas sous mes yeux actuellement, que..

Henri Jean Lagasse était sur la liste des passagers en 1897. Il avait 66 ans et revenait de France. Il était parti de Boulogne-sur-Mer en France. Je me demande pourquoi un homme âgé de 66 ans irait en France – à moins du décès de quelqu’un. Sa mère ou son père. qu’en penses-tu? Boulogne-sur-Mer est une ville dans le nord de la France. Je vois mal Henri, âgée de 66 ans, voyagé si loin de ce port à son âge en 1897. Je fais des recherches dans cette région et dans les régions avoisinantes pour voir si des Lagasse y vivraient. Aussi près du port du Havre en France. Ma dernière tante toujours vivante, Glory Lagasse Cronin, dit qu’elle pense que les Lagasse viendraient d’Alsace-Lorraine.. Je ne suis pas certaine.

Si tu peux, réponds s.v.p à ce message..

Merci, Grace

P.S. Ma mère, Grace, avait l’habitude de parler tout le temps de son oncle Henry Glory. Elle demeurait sur la rue Annunciation dans les quartiers résidentiels de la Nouvelle-Orléans. Je pense qu’ils ne demeuraient pas tellement loin de là.

Maybe someone in France will find this blog and write a comment below.

Who knows? We just have to give it a try.

Genealogy runs in my veins… Take 2

Post No. 256!

Now we are getting somewhere.

I just got this comment from Grace who has helped someone in her search for her ancestors. Now it’s her turn to get some help.

So here is what she wrote as a comment… as a reference to a message on Ancestry posted back in 2000!

I am Paul Chandler. My mother is Sarah Glory Chandler. My grandfather is Henry Glory. My great-grandmother was Annie Mary Lagasse Glory (1894-1970). My great-great-grandfather was Joseph Lagasse (1873?-1957). My great-great-great-grandfather was Henry Lagasse (1831-1909). THIS Henry was married to Mathilda Dazet and according to their tomb in Lafayette #2 (NOT L#1 across the street from Commander’s Palace) they were both native of France. Henry and Mathilda had two sons and three daughters. The sons were Paul (1862-1935)and Joseph (my ancester). Joseph had at least 11 kids. Paul had at least 13 kids. Each of the sons had lots of boys to the point of where I am related to every Lagasse in town except for the famous Emeril who is from up north. Paul had a Henry who had a Henry. Joseph had two Henry’s (one died as an infant). Which Henry is your grandfather? I am guessing that the original Henry came to New Orleans before the Civil War

Now her reply to Paul…

This is a reply to Henri Jean Lagasse by Paul. Well, what do you know, Paul , you are a relative of mine! My grandfather was Joseph Robert Lagasse (18 Mar 1899 – 17 Apr 1954). He married my grandmother, Mary Gerdes Cook on 6 Aug 1919 at Our Lady of Good Counsel Catholic Church in New Orleans. He was the son of Joseph Lucien Lagasse, my great-grandfather, your great-great grandfather. I saw you had a question mark by his birth. He was born on 17 Jan 1872. He married Josephine Schneeburger (not sure of the date) in New Orleans and he died on 14 Aug 1957 in New Orleans. My great-great-grandfather was Henri Jean Lagasse, who was your 3rd great grandfather. He was born in France (not sure where) on 09 May 1831 and died in New Orleans on 04 Dec 1909. He married  Matilde Dazet somewhere in France because his first child Marie or Mary was born in 1857 in France according to the 1880 census.

I found Matilda Dazet, at the nice age of 70 and Henri Jean Lagasse, at 69, on the 1900 Census which confirms their marriage year of 1859 in France…. where again it does not state. Interesting because it appears that they had Mary before they were married. The 1900 Census states that his parents were born in France as well. At this time, they list Matilde as having 5 living children but gave birth to 7. In addition, I recently found two ship manifests for Henri Jean Lagasse.

HERE IS THE FIRST MANIFEST FOR HENRI JEAN LAGASSE

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Henri Lagasse
Name: Henri Lagasse
Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1898
Birth Year: abt 1831
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: American
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Havre
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: La Touraine
Search Ship Database: Search the La Touraine in the ‘Passenger Ships and Images’ database

THE SECOND MANIFEST states, because I can’t place my finger on it at the moment that

Henri Jean Lagasse was on the Passenger list of 1897 at 66 years old coming back from France. His port of departure was Boulogne-sur-Mer, France. I asked myself why would a 66 year old man be going back to France- unless someone died. It would have been either his mom or dad, don’t you think? Boulogne-sur-Mer is a city in northern France. I can’t see Henri at 66 traveling too far away from this port at his age back in 1897. I am researching this area and surrounding areas to see if any Lagasses lived there. Also the port in Havre, France. My last living aunt, Glory Lagasse Cronin, says she thinks that they may have come from Alsace Lorraine. Not sure.

If you can, please respond to my post.

Thanks, Grace

P.S. My mother, Grace , use to talk about her Uncle Henry Glory all the time. She lived on Annunciation street uptown New Orleans and I think they did not live far away.

Thanks to Pierre Lagacé for this blog.

Now the ball is rolling…

Not only rolling but I will translate this in French, my mother tongue since I also have a French version of this blog, and I have many readers from France and abroad.

So who knows?

Maybe someone knows something about Henri Jean Lagasse who emigrated to America in the 1800s.

We’ll just have to sit and wait this one out.

Next time, I will have the translation in French.

Genealogy runs in my veins…

Post No. 255!

Hard to stop looking for ancestors?

You can bet on it.

Hard to stop looking also for other people’s ancestors?

You can bet on it also.

Henri Jean Lagasse emigrated to America and he left descendants searching for their roots back in France.

That’s what the 1900 U.S. Census says,

This search has been going on the Internet since 2000.

I am Paul Chandler. My mother is Sarah Glory Chandler. My grandfather is Henry Glory. My great-grandmother was Annie Mary Lagasse Glory (1894-1970). My great-great-grandfather was Joseph Lagasse (1873?-1957). My great-great-great-grandfather was Henry Lagasse (1831-1909). THIS Henry was married to Mathilda Dazet and according to their tomb in Lafayette #2 (NOT L#1 across the street from Commander’s Palace) they were both native of France. Henry and Mathilda had two sons and three daughters. The sons were Paul (1862-1935) and Joseph (my ancestor). Joseph had at least 11 kids. Paul had at least 13 kids. Each of the sons had lots of boys to the point of where I am related to every Lagasse in town except for the famous Emeril who is from up north. Paul had a Henry who had a Henry. Joseph had two Henrys (one died as an infant). Which Henry is your grandfather?

I am guessing that the original Henry came to New Orleans before the Civil War.

With the message I got on Ancestry’s Message Board yesterday I think Henri Jean Lagasse is still looking for his ancestors.

I know people who had been searching for the elusive Dennis Lagasse for 25 years.

I was here all the time… with my brother Peter.

Pierre Lagacé (Peter Lagasse) and Stanislas Lagacé (Dennis Lagasse II)

Thanks to this blog, Dennis has reunited three distant cousins together and he keeps reuniting people over and over again.

Make that four cousins and counting.

As for Henri Jean Lagasse, I am also certain he is not really related to me. But is that really important?

Genealogy runs in my veins…