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Meet Idala LaGasse, his son David LaGasse and his cousin Léo Lagacé Senior…

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This is a draft post I wrote on May 26, 2010. I could I have waited on May 26, 2017 to publish it, but maybe I will have so much to write about my DNA results that it might never be published.

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This is Idala LaGasse.

Idola LaGasse in 1930

This is one of his five sons.

David LaGasse in 1935


David LaGasse has to be very proud of his daughter. She wanted to find her father’s ancestors.

This is the beautiful story of distant cousins living 3000 miles apart who both wanted to find their roots. Pierre lives in Quebec and Alyce lives on the West Coast. They are distant cousins but their family ties are strong so is their addiction to genealogy and old pictures.

Pierre would very much like to own a picture of his great-grandfather Stanislas Lagacé born in 1842. He knows he was still alive back in 1912 when his grandfather Léo Senior first got married. Stanislas Lagacé was known as Dennis Lagassee and he lived in Bristol, Connecticut.

Name: Dennis Lagassee
Residence: Bristol borough, Hartford, Connecticut
Birth Date: Aug 1841
Birthplace: Canada Fr
Spouse Name: Harriett Lagassee
Spouse Birth Place: Canada Fr
Father Birthplace: Canada Fr
Mother Birthplace: Canada Fr
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name:
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 38
Estimated Marriage Year: 1862
Immigration Year: 1889
Collection: United States Census, 1900

This is a picture of Pierre’s grandfather taken around 1933. He believes the picture was taken in Montreal.

Léo Lagacé Senior 1933

Léo Lagacé Senior is with his first two sons: Léo Junior, who is Pierre’s father, and Marcel who is in the wheelchair. Léo Lagacé Senior was a tailor. That’s what Pierre’s father told him when he was young. Pierre’s father did not talk much about his parents, so Pierre knew almost nothing.

This is Pierre’s father.

Léo Lagacé Junior 1950

Léo Junior became a fireman on May 10, 1950. Léo Senior Lagacé and David LaGasse were second cousins which makes Léo Junior and Alyce third cousins also. Léo Senior Lagacé and Idala LaGasse were first cousins. Pierre doesn’t believe they ever met, but maybe they did.

You see Léo Senior lived in the United States. He emigrated there in 1889 with his parents Stanislas Lagacé and Henriette Alexandre when he was one years old. Henriette had 13 children. Léo Senior came back to Quebec in 1907 and settled in St-Hyacinthe.

Two years ago Pierre knew nothing about his grandfather’s parents. There was nothing on the Internet at that time. So Pierre went looking for them. Someone gave him a clue and he kept on searching and searching.

This is the final result of his research…

Now if you type “Stanislas Lagace” on Google… this is the first thing you will find

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881CN_1053671_0&frompage=99 (broken link)

It’s the Mormon site. Stanislas is listed as a carpenter in Notre-Dame de Stanbridge. The next thing on Google is not related… but the third one is…

http://nosancetres.monblogue.branchez-vous.com/2008/07/01 (broken link)

This is Pierre’s old genealogy blog where he talked about his findings. Stanislas was a laborer and worked for the railway.

And the fourth…

https://steanne.wordpress.com/category/the-lagasse-family/page/2/

Well this is Pierre’s new blog…

You see Pierre put his great-grandfather Stanislas Lagacé on the map sort of. Now it’s Alyce’s turn with Pierre’s help.

Next time, more pictures of Idala’s family because the search is going on. Alyce won’t mind because she sent them to Pierre… so everyone can see them. Alyce also sent this to Pierre to thank him…



Confus?

It’s about a picture I took in a cemetery in October 2012 when I visited third cousin Joe. In 2012 I knew that the Dubés were related to the Lagacés. So I took that picture in case Pamela Dube would be a distant relative.

Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

This is a comment I got two days ago.

I need more information about the death of Pamela Dubé married to Napoléon Dubé. Can you send me information about the cemetery where she was buried and the date if you have?

Thank you.

Annick

I replied and Annick sent me the research she had done on the Dubés and she told me I could share it.


This is the translation of yesterday’s post

Bernard Dubé Family

Bernard Dubé was born and baptized on August 20,1819 in St-Roch-des-Aulnaies. He died on November 17, and was buried on November 21,1899 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac.

His wife Marie Charlotte Caron was born on December 23,1823 in Rivière-du-Loup and was baptized the next day in St-André. His parents were Louis Caron and Marie Charlotte Plourde.

Their children were:

  1. Joseph Onésime was born and baptized February 16,1844 in St-André. Married to Philomène Roy on August 6,1866 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died on July 31,1928, buried on August 2,1928 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  2. Thessalonique/Célanire was born on 27 November 1845 in Rivière-du-Loup, baptized the next day. Married to Jean Baptiste Beaulieu on September 17,1866 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died September 13,1924, buried on September 15,1924 at St-Eusèbe.
  3. Leda was born and baptized on June 1,1858 in Rivière-du-Loup. Married to Prudent Beaulieu on January 7,1879 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died May 27,1937, buried May 29,1937 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  4. Élie was born November 15,1854 in Rivière-du-Loup. Married to Henriette Beaulieu on October 6,1885 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died May 9,1920, buried in Notre-Dame-du-Lac on May 12,1920
  5. Philomène was born on March 20,1867 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac, baptized the next day. Married to Edgar Pinet on October 6,1885 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  6. Julianna was born on June 11,1860 in Rivière-du-Loup and baptized the next day in Notre-Dame-du-Portage. Married at Evariste Dubé on November 12,1889 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac
  7. Bernard Sylvio was born November 23,1870 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac and baptized November 26,1870. Married to Arthémise Dubé on November 12,1889 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  8. Achilles was born and baptized August 13,1849 in Rivière-du-Loup. Married to Catherine Michaud on February 20,1871 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died May 15,1875, buried on May 17,1875 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  9. Bernard Élisée was born on December 3,1847 in Rivière-du-Loup, baptized the same day in Cacouna. Married to Séraphine Dubé on November 5,1878 in L’ Isle-Verte, France.
  10. Hormidas was born December 20,1868; baptized the next day in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died March 5,1927; buried in Notre-Dame-du-Lac on March 8,1927.
  11. Paméla was born and baptized on May 7,1863 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Married to Napoléon Dubé on April 15,1899 in New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA.
  12. Tancrède was born on July 22,1851 in Rivière-du-Loup and baptized on July 24,1851. Married to Derumène Saucier on October 28,1878 at St-François Xavier, New Brunswick. Died October 29,1932, buried in Notre-Dame-du-Lac on October 31,1932.
  13. Joseph Herménégilde was born on February 24,1865 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac and baptized on February 26,1865. Married to Philomène Desjardins.
  14. Délima was born on March 16,1853 in Rivière-du-Loup and baptized the next day. Married to Louis Pelletier on November 3,1874 at Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  15. Ivanhoé Ivanhoe was born on October 1,1872 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac, baptized on October 3,1872. Married to Hélène Roy,
  16. Arthur was born on October 28,1856 in Rivière-du-Loup. Married to Hélène Labrie on June 22,1886 in Rivière-du-Loup. Died August 17,1937 buried on August 20,1937 at St-Eusèbe.

Arthur and Hélène’s children were:

  1. Timothy was born on June 4,1889 in St-Eusèbe and baptized on June 8,1889 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Married to Eugénie Giroux on September 7,1914 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Died on 12 October 1979 in St-Eusèbe
  2. Alma was born on July 9,1893 in St-Eusèbe and baptized on July 12,1893 in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Married to Arthur Quenneville on September 7,1914 at St-Eusèbe. Died November 20,1964 at Rivière Bleue, Quebec
  3. Émile was born August 2,1891 in St-Eusèbe and baptized the same day in Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Married to Blanche Jolicoeur Girard on February 15,1915 in Ville St-Pierre, Montreal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Confused?

It’s about a picture I took in a cemetery in October 2012 when I visited third cousin Joe. In 2012 I knew that the Dubés were related to the Lagacés. So I took that picture in case Pamela Dube would be a distant relative.

Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

This is a comment I got two days ago.

I need more information about the death of Pamela Dubé married to Napoléon Dubé. Can you send me information about the cemetery where she was buried and the date if you have?

Thank you.

Annick

I replied and Annick sent me the research she had done on the Dubés and she told me I could share it.


 

Famille Bernard Dubé

Bernard Dubé est né et baptisé le 20 aout 1819 à St-Roch-des-Aulnaies. Il est décédé le 17 novembre et enterré le 21 novembre 1899 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.

Marie Charlotte Caron sa femme est née le 23 décembre 1823 à Rivière-du-Loup et baptisée le lendemain à St-André. Ses parents sont Louis et Marie Charlotte Plourde.

Leurs enfants :

  1. Joseph Onésime né et baptisé le 16 février 1844 à St-André. Marié à Philomène Roy le 6 août 1866 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédé le 31 juillet 1928, enterré le 2 août 1928 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac
  2. Thessalonique/Célanire née le 27 novembre 1845 à Rivière-du-Loup, baptisée le lendemain. Mariée à Jean Baptiste Beaulieu le 17 septembre1866 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédée le 13 septembre 1924, enterrée le 15 septembre 1924 à St-Eusèbe
  3. Leda née et baptisée le 1er juin 1858 à Rivière-du-Loup. Mariée à Prudent Beaulieu le 7 janvier 1879 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédée le 27mai 1937, enterrée le 29 mai 1937 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  4. Élie né le 15 novembre  1854 à Rivière-du-Loup. Marié à Henriette Beaulieu le 6 octobre 1885 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédé le 9 mai 1920, enterré le 12 mai 1920 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac
  5. Philomène née le 20 mars 1867 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac, baptisée le lendemain. Mariée à Edgar Pinet le 6 octobre 1885 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  6. Julianna née le 11 juin 1860 à Rivière-du-Loup et baptisée le lendemain à Notre-Dame-du-Portage. Mariée à Évariste Dubé le 12 novembre 1889 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac
  7. Bernard Sylvio né le 23 novembre 1870 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac et baptisé le 26 novembre 1870. Marié à Arthémise Dubé le 12 novembre 1889 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  8. Achille né et baptisé le 13 août 1849 à Rivière-du-Loup. Marié à Catherine Michaud le 20 février 1871 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédé le 15 mai 1875, enterré le 17 mai 1875 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac
  9. Bernard Élisée né le 3 décembre 1847 à Rivière-du-Loup, baptisé la même journée à Cacouna. Marié à Séraphine Dubé le 5 novembre 1878 à L’Isle-Verte
  10. Hormidas né le 20 décembre 1868; baptisé le lendemain à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédé le 5 mars 1927; enterré le 8 mars 1927 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  11. Paméla née et baptisée le 7 mai 1863 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Mariée à Napoléon Dubé le 15 avril 1899 à New Bedford, Bristol, Massachussets, États-Unis.
  12. Tancrède né le 22 juillet 1851 à Rivière-du-Loup et baptisé le 24 juillet 1851. Marié à Derumène Saucier le 28 octobre 1878 à St-François Xavier, Nouveau Brunswick. Décédé le 29 octobre 1932, enterré le 31 octobre 1932 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  13. Joseph Herménégilde né le 24 février 1865 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac et baptisé le 26 février 1865. Marié à Philomène Desjardins.
  14. Délima née le 16 mars 1853 à Rivière-du-Loup et baptisée le lendemain. Marié a Louis Pelletier le 3 novembre 1874 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac.
  15. Ivanhoé né le 1er octobre 1872 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac baptisé le 3 octobre 1872. Marié à Hélène Roy,
  16. Arthur né le 28 octobre 1856 à Rivière-du-Loup. Marié à Hélène Labrie le 22 juin 1886 à Rivière-du-Loup. Décédé le 17 août 1937 enterré le 20 août 1937 à St-Eusèbe

Leurs enfants :

Timothée né le 4 juin 1889 à St-Eusèbe et baptisé le 8 juin 1889 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Marié à Eugénie Giroux le 7 septembre 1914 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Décédé le 12 octobre 1979 à St-Eusèbe

Alma née le 9 juillet 1893 à St-Eusèbe et baptisée le 12 juillet 1893 à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Mariée à Arthur Quenneville le 7 septembre 1914 à St-Eusèbe. Décédée le 20 novembre 1964 à Rivière-Bleue

Émile né 2 aout 1891 à St-Eusèbe et baptisé le même jour à Notre-Dame-du-Lac. Marié à Blanche Jolicoeur Girard le 15 février 1915 à Ville St-Pierre, Montréal.

Translation will soon follow…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This Blog Is so… Confusing!

This is post 1255.

I started writing this post last December realizing that searching for someone’s roots can be quite confusing at time as well as reading my blog.

A case in point…

Take given names for instance.

Stanislas Lagacé was born in 1816. His son Stanislas, born in 1842, changed his given name to Dennis when he emigrated to the U.S. His son Dennis, born in 1864, had a son named Levi Napoleon who named his son Lionel who named his son Dennis.

So you have Stanislas I, Stanislas (Dennis) II, Dennis III, and great-grandson Dennis IV.

Surnames?

The spelling of Lagacé is almost endless!

Minier dit L’Agacé

Mignier dit L’Agacé

Lagacé dit Mignier

Lagacé dit Meunier

Meunier dit Lagacé

Meunier

Miller (English for meunier)

Lagassé

Lagassée

Lagasse

Lagassey

Lagassee

Legace

Lagassie

LaGassé

LeGassy…

So what’s all this got to do with looking for lost ancestors? You have brick walls, dead ends like this headstone of a Joseph M. Lagasse and an Edwina M. Newcity…

Joseph Lagasse and Edwina Newcity

I found this headstone on the Internet while searching for Joseph, one of my great-grandfather Stanislas II (Dennis) Lagacé’s siblings.

This file is Joseph’s father’s file.

file Stanislas Lagacé

You see Joseph Lagasse 1848 – on the right with all his siblings.

Stanislas Lagacé was born 16 February, 1816. He married Onésime Cadieux in 1840. His brother was Pierre Lagacé born in 1825. Both have lots of descendants who have not the faintess idea of their French-Canadian roots except my distant cousin Alyce.

In 2007, I knew nothing about those people who had Stanislas as a given name. I was working instead on the presumption that I was somehow related to that Pierre Lagacé born in 1825. So I started looking for his descendants in the hope of linking my grandfather Léo Lagacé Senior to him.

detective

What I got in 2010 was a message from Alyce .

Confused?

This thread will be continued when I get my 23andMe reports…

descendants of Pierre Lagacé and Marcelline David

Next time…

Revisiting St. Thomas cemetery in Bristol, Connecticut.

Fascinating!

I was always fascinated by history as long as I can remember. This fascination is most probably in my fascination gene…

Alyce sent me this message this morning. I think I can safely share her thoughts.

Hi Pierre…

I’m reading Farther Than Any Man: The Rise and Fall of Captain James Cook by Martin Dugard and wanted to share this quote with you.

Cook has always fascinated me…but reading this I realize he had to be fighting our relatives…. right? Maybe that’s how I got my English bloodline….or ….Idalas wife, i.e. my grandmother had German and English etc. I thought she was also 100% French

Anyway so far it’s a good book.

Excerpt

Cook was again sent to fight the French in Canada. As 1758 moved into 1759, the British had penetrated deep into Canada, just outside the pivotal city of Quebec. At Quebec, the Saint Lawrence River narrowed from several miles wide to just several hundred yards. No ship could sail farther into Canada without coming under fire from the French guns perched on the cliffs overlooking the river. As long as the French held Quebec, they held Canada. The British needed to maneuver their ships closer to the city in order to attack, but were afraid of running them aground in the turbulent, rocky waters. They were reluctant to use captured French river maps, for fear they were fakes designed to ruin the British fleet. Cook was ordered to survey the Saint Lawrence and prepare an original set of maps for the attack.”

Alone in a small rowboat, in that no-man’s-land between the British front lines and the French outpost above him on the Plains of Abraham, Cook charted the Saint Lawrence. He gauged currents and calculated depths, located sandbars and rocky shoals, noted where the banks were conducive to assault boats unloading troops. On July 31, 1759, using Cook’s information, red-haired British general James Wolfe landed a force of nine thousand troops and marched into position to attempt a frontal attack by land. Wolfe was repulsed. Clearly, a more daring strategy was required. Wolfe decided that in his next attack his troops would scale the steep cliffs from the river up onto the Plains of Abraham, where he would attack the French from behind. The sticking point was getting ships upriver to drop troops at the base of those cliffs. Not only was the shore lined with unseen rocks and of varying depths, but the current was highly unpredictable. Wolfe had been impressed with Cook’s earlier maps. He asked Cook to find a path through the rocks and currents for the landing craft to put the soldiers ashore. The reconnaissance was perilously close to French forces. Cook, eager to prove himself and just as eager to display heroism, enthusiastically swore that he would find such a path. Working under cover of darkness, Cook covertly sounded depths and gauged currents, then briefed Wolfe on an appropriate landing spot. Displaying his growing self-confidence, Cook also offered strategy tips. The next day Wolfe led five thousand men up the steep cliffs to the Plains of Abraham. The thirty-two-year-old general died while routing the French, but the Battle of Quebec ultimately assured Britain’s victory in the Seven Years’ War. It also made Cook’s name. Buzz around the navy referred to him as “master surveyor and master of the fleet.” In essence, James Cook was the best of the second-best. That lantern of hope allowing him to make brash decisions was shining brighter than ever. Cook’s improbable career move from Whitby was paying off. When the war ended, however, Cook’s meteoric career encountered its first bump in the road. Pembroke returned to England in the fall of 1762, and a stunned Cook was laid off. He was paid the considerable sum of three hundred pounds (about $ 70,000 today) as thanks from His Majesty. Cook wandered London with full pockets for the first time in his life, confused about his next career move but carefree in his small wealth.”

The Generosity Gene

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Alyce gave me that wonderful gift. I wanted to sure I could say she was the person who gave it.

Alyce said I was a generous person. I believe Alyce and I share a common gene.

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