Wednesday Morning- Jumping to conclusions

This was shared in 2009 with a few captions…

original picture of the Lagasse family

Original scanned image

East Bristol 1916

Edited version

I had added names in 2013…

Bertha with family in Bristol

I am still not sure about number 17.

How I came about to identify all these people would need another blog, or you would need to read most of my posts on this blog, and get completely confused.

In 2009 I thought number 15 was Amanda Ménard, and I was wondering who was that old lady number 11 with the smile on her face. That was before when, in 2011, Dennis Lagasse IV sent me all these pictures of Amanda Ménard, and I got curious…



It’s easy to get the names wrong with old photos of people who are your distant relatives. The people above were Dennis Lagassey III, his wife Amanda Ménard, and their son Harvey Lagasse with his wife Mae Cox.

This is Mae Cox.


I am sure this is not Mae Cox in Michael’s old photos.


Who could she be? It seems she might be related to Jean-Baptiste Carignan who married four times.

Jumping to conclusions is sometimes the only way to move on…



Update – You tell me…

Written 5 years ago when Patricia first wrote me…

I have always wanted to understand how someone could put a little boy in an orphanage and never see him again. The “whys” of it continue to haunt me.When he died, I promised myself I would try to find out his story and until now had hit brick walls.


Is this young child Francis Joseph Malloy, the father of Patricia?

picture of a young child - Adams, Massachusetts

You tell me…

Francis J Malloy

Francis Joseph Malloy
U.S. Coast Guard WWII
Aleutian Islands

Quonset hut in the background

montage Francis Joseph Malloy

Francis was born in 1909 and was put in an orphanage in 1914. He never knew why. Patricia wanted to know why because Francis Malloy’s parents had more children after him.

I have always wanted to understand how someone could put a little boy in an orphanage and never see him again. The “whys” of it continue to haunt me.When he died, I promised myself I would try to find out his story and until now had hit brick walls.

This little child’s picture was part of Joe’s collection of old pictures. I did not pay too much attention to it since there was no caption. The only clue is the photographer… Parsons – Adams, Mass.

Francis was born there!

These are more pictures from Joe’s collection.

I am sure these people are related somehow to Francis.

The problem is how?

Famous people on Our Ancestors

There are thousands of famous people on Our Ancestors.

This is the latest one. His name is Royal Bourelle a steam roller operator. Royal Bourelle is famous because, like all the famous people on Our Ancestors, he worked hard all his life and left many descendants some of which will eventually stumble upon Our Ancestors.

This obituary tells all we need to know about him.

Most of his descendants don’t have the faintess idea who Royal Bourelle was. This is why I am writing about him with Luanne’s permission. Luanne is my new found third cousin once removed. She sent me Royal Bourelle’s obituary. Luanne is the one who commented on her grandmother Agnes Molloy who I first thought was Bertha Molloy.

Honest mistake…

It’s easy to get confused when you work on your great-grandfather’s siblings like I did with Joseph Miller Lagasse’s descendants.

Joseph was Philomène Lagasse’s brother. Philomène was Luanne’s great-great-grandmother which makes us third cousins once removed. Philomène is seen here in the centre with her six daughters.

One is Luanne’s great-grandmother.

I think she is at 2 o’clock. In fact I pretty sure.

I have been looking for all of my great-grandfather’s siblings’ descendants because I know how exciting it is to see old photographs of our ancestors. If you don’t know how I am related to Robin who had shared so many old photographs with me, you should use the search button at the bottom and type her name.

The search feature is a great tool to find lost ancestors. Another tool is the comment section you can use to contact me. This is how Luanne found a third cousin who knows so much about her ancestors it’s well…


Addicted to genealogy since 2007, and blogging about it since 2009 in English*, I am still in perfect control of my obsession with your ancestors when I feel someone is interested.

I don’t monetise my blog. I could, but money is the root of all evil. Instead I have found something more precious…

Pépère Bourelle’s photo.

* I also have a French version…

Taken when Idala died…

My dearest cousin just sent me this a second time around…

Nine years later, but with the caption.

Taken when Idala died…

Not important unless you know all about Idala, his ancestors, his siblings, his descendants who most don’t know anything about their great-great-grandfather. Getting his descendants reunited with Idala is why I have been writing about him on Our Ancestors with Alyce’s help since 2010.

Your comments are always welcome on Our Ancestors…


Today is All Souls Day.

This draft post was intended for publication  on October 15. I wanted to write about the Sauvé family. That was before I started writing about a Ford Model T photo and people who were associated with it.



I have been remembering my ancestors and yours since 2008, first in French on Nos ancêtres, and then in 2009 on this English version. I have remembered a lot more than you think because  I have also honoured the Fallen in World War II.

People have been sharing so many memories, memorabilia, and photos they had of their ancestors and their relatives, even some they knew nothing about, that I felt compelled to write about them.

This comment was posted by Liza in 2014 on this blog. It was a post I had written about my maternal great-grandparents Honoré Sauvé and Julie Leroux.

Hello Pierre,
I happened to stumble across your English blog yesterday and your French blog this afternoon. I have been reading your past posts, trying to start from the beginning but reading here and there. I am pretty sure that I am a distant cousin of yours. My maternal grandfather was Osias Sauvé (1874-1954) who married Kate Welburn as his third wife both in Quebec (Namur) and Ontario (Hawkesbury or Curran) – they married three times for various reasons. In addition, my maternal grandmother was Marie Ida Evaleen Renaud who married Russell H Macklem in Windsor, Ontario, but they were originally from Quebec.

In addition, I read one of your posts about the Cloutier family, and I believe my husband, Mario Gervais, is related to several other families you mentioned. His parents are Josaphat Gervais (Gervais, Cayouette) and the late Ruth Roy (Roy, Pelletier – a grandparent was a Cloutier).

Still trying to figure out where you fit on my tree…

P.S. We live in Ottawa.

When Liza wrote this comment, I quicky began searching for her grandfather Osias Sauvé to find out how Liza and I were related. It was not that easy to find the missing link. 

I was sure Osias Sauvé was the son of Honoré Sauvé (Henry Souvia) and Joséphine Parent, but I could not find Osias parents’ marriage record. I had to rely on several Canadian censuses to find his grandparents Hyacinthe Sauvé and Théotiste Sabourin in the 1852, 1861, and 1871 censuses.

This is Osias (Exloise Souvia), age 6, with his parents in the 1881 Canadian census. We see his siblings: Emma, Lora (Laura), William, Milinda, Ambrose (Ambroise), Joseph and finally Leon (Léon).


In 1896, Osias Sauvé married Marie Durocher who also went by the name Marie Desrochers. Osias’ name was also entered in several official records as Exeas, Exias, and even Elzear making it even more difficult to find all of Osias’ children.

Osias Sauvé was born on November 2, 1874 (date to be validated). He was married three times and had nine sons and nine daughters. Osias died on May 10, 1954 (date to be validated). He was 79.

Liza commented again last month about Alexandre Benoît dit Livernois…

I have some information about this family that I want to send you but I can’t seem to find your email address.

This was a great help to close the chapter on the Bennett family on Our Ancestors.

Liza had more information to share about Osias Sauvé, and together we have succeeded in finding all 18 children. This is one of Liza’s many photos she has shared last month.

Osias Sauvé is on the right, and I believe his first son Osias, born in 1897, is with him. I am sure he was not a stranger who wanted to pose for posterity with Osias Sauvé. 

This is another photo from Liza’s collection.

On the left is (Cléophas) Clifford Sauvé with his brother Osias. I see some resemblance with the man on the other photo, but that’s the only hint Liza and I have.

Osias Sauvé, who is my 6th cousin once removed, had fathered 18 children and probably has hundreds if not thousands of descendants who will one day stumble across this blog, and write what Liza did in 2014… 

Hello Pierre,
I happened to stumble across your English blog yesterday and your French blog this afternoon. I have been reading your past posts, trying to start from the beginning but reading here and there. I am pretty sure that I am a distant cousin of yours.

Next time on Our Ancestors, Thomas Welburn, Nellie Leggett, and their children.


Being Almost 100% Sure?

I had a feeling about my last post…

I saw your post below about a Benoit ancestor so I sent the link to a cousin of mine. She is a direct descendant of Paul Benoit dit Livernois (1623-1686) and is a genealogy fanatic also.

We saw that you believe Alexandre Bennett/Benoit is the son of Francois Benoit dit Livernois & Angelique Fontaine dite Bienvenu. However, according to PRDH, their son Amable died in 1841 in Ste-Charles-Sur-Richelieu. What is way more likely is that your Alexander Bennett was Alexandre Benoit (no Livernois) born 14 Oct and bap 15 Oct 1833 in Montreal. This Alexandre was the son of Jean Baptist Benoit & Emilie Migneault dite Labrie, and the grandson of Pierre Benoit (b abt 1744 in Acadia, d 1814 in St-Luc, Que) who was deported as part of the Acadian expulsion.

I hope this helps and does not confuse things even more.



Alexander Bennett story might not be over after all, so stay tuned.

However a new chapter of Our Ancestors is coming soon. It’s about a comment made in 2012 and a little search for distant relatives in Ontario.

Keep those comments coming!

Intermission – Salomé Mignier dit Lagacé

Again no reason to doubt who was this couple. Julie had shared this on a Facebook group page as well as their son’s picture.

Salomé Mignier dit Lagacé was one of the first Lagacés I found in my quest for my ancestors back in 2007 when I was desperately looking for any Pierre Lagacé that had lived in the 1800s.

There was this Pierre Lagacé who had married Marcelline David. Little did I know then that Pierre was my great-great-grandfather’s brother and was Alyce’s great-great-grandfather.

So it’s more than fitting to remember Salomé whom I found on my journey into the past and write a little about her and her descendants.

To be continued…unless Dennis sends me more negatives as he commented on Donna’s comment.

I love, love, love when you share these pictures of my grandmother Odna and her siblings. They bring back so many memories from my youth. I have to wonder if I ever met Dennis IV. I remember attending many Lagasse picnics at Lake Compounce in Bristol CT. Perhaps we met there as children.

Hi Donna, We would go to Compounce when I was young but I don’t remember picnics. I do remember visiting Odna more than once though. We may have met there? After Levi and then Marie-Louise passed, these pictures and negatives were put away and not seen for over 40 years. They moved around CT and around FL and back to CT with my mom and dad, packed in a box. I thought we went through all there was, but my mom found this box they haven’t looked in since they moved to FL over 20 years ago. Inside were some things put away by my grandmother along with a cigar box. I was organizing things and put the cigar box aside to wait for my dad to open. While I was moving the heavy box a little I happened to peek and almost fell over when I saw all these negatives! My dad took a look and we let Pierre know right away and came up with a way to save them. Pierre is doing a great job of turning these into positives and sharing them! There are many many more, I can’t wait to see what we find. I’m so happy you enjoy the pictures Donna. I like seeing my grandmother too, smiling and happy. It looks like they were all fun loving, hard working happy people then. I’m not sure but I think Levi may have taken a lot of these pictures and might find that out also. More to come, right Pierre?

Lionel and Marie-Louise

Right Dennis!

Odna and Ida

I know Odna and Ida are on these photos sent as negatives yesterday. Not positive if the child is Harvey Lagasse Junior.

I guess the infant here with Odna is her child, either Helena Ritchie born in 1918 or Francis Richie born in 1919.
Odna Lagasse with child
My guess is it’s Helena since Odna looks younger on this photo with Helena taken on November 16, 1921.

Odna Lagasse at the wedding
Ida is also on that group picture on the right with her daughter holding on her skirt. In the back is Dennis II holding a cigar. The woman on the left might be his daughter Marguerite widow of Joseph Dubé. Next to Marguerite Lagasse might be Eugene Dubé and his wife Lillie Lagasse.
We all know who the bride is of course…

Bertha Lagasse

Bertha Lagasse

Bertha Lagasse married William Edward Austin on November 16, 1921.

Bertha and William
Bertha appears on many old pictures from Lionel Lagasse’s collection.
This one is my favorite photo.

Little by little I am able to identify people I could not identified in 2011. The more photos Dennis shares, the more I can validate who is who.
I think I know who were in the car with Bertha around 1917 in Connecticut.
Move Over
To be continued…

About Délia, Élise and Joséphine Dubé

It has been quite a busy week genealogy wise. First it was about Pamela Dubé

Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

Then a request about Firmin

Then Sadie Burby

Then a descendant who wrote a comment about his great-grandfather on the French version of this blog.

These are five photos from Lionel Lagasse’s collection of old pictures. The young woman is his mother Marie-Louise Dubé.

Lionel’s son Dennis had shared more than 100 old photos on Our Ancestors since 2011. This next photo is not from him, but from Claude Leblanc who last week saw my French version of Our Ancestors.


Collection Claude Leblanc

He wrote a comment telling me his great-grandfather was Pierre Dubé and his great-grandmother was Emma Sévigny. They were Marie-Louise Dubé’s parents.

Claude did not know about Marie-Louise, but he knew all about Pierre Dubé and Emma Sévigny seen on the left with Olive Dubé on one of Lionel’s collection of old pictures.

But is the young woman really Olive Dubé or could she be Diana Dubé?
Olive Dubé with her mother Emma Sévigny

Collection Lionel Lagasse

Délia, Élise and Joséphine Dubé were Marie-Louise Dubé’s sisters seen here in the middle of this next photo with two unidentified young women.

Marie-Louise Dubé and sisters

Collection Lionel Lagasse

In Lionel’s collection there was this photo where he had identified Diana as the woman holding up the child, his mother Marie-Louise sitting and Olive behind a little girl.

Daly and-Dubé family

Collection Lionel Lagasse

He had also this one photo showing what he told me were John Daly and Diana Dubé in Val-Racine.

John Daly and Diana Dubé

Collection Dennis Lagasse

I am no longer sure that Diana Dubé is the woman holding a small child in her arms and Olive is Olive.Daly and-Dubé family

Instead the sister holding the child would be Joséphine Dubé who is seen here sitting on the right with her sisters Délia on the left and Élise in the middle.Dubé-3soeurs

Behind Joséphine is her husband Arthur Dupuis. The little guy with the cap would be Joseph Dupuis. His younger brother Alphonse would be on the left with the white hat. Alphonse Dupuis was the son of Arthur Dupuis and Joséphine Dubé. He later  married Annette Dumoulin, born in Notre-Dame-des-Bois in 1914.

Annette Dumoulin I found her last week on Find a Grave.

Annette A. Dupuis 1914 -2010 Brunswick – Annette A. Dupuis 96, of Sunny Brook Village, 340 Bath Rd. Brunswick, Maine; formerly of Rumford, Maine died. She was born in Notre Dame des Bois, Canada. She was the daughter of the late Hermidas and Sara Lussier Dumoulin and was married to Alphonse Dupuis who was deceased in January of 1977. She was also the sister of Armand Dumoulin formerly of Rumford. Mrs. Dupuis was a former member of St. John’s and St. Athanasius Parish and enjoyed cooking, knitting, quilting, playing cribbage, and loved cooking for large family gatherings.

She was the bookkeeper for the family logging company and cook for the log crew. She also did the accounting for Mount Zircon Spring Water Company, Inc. which was purchased by she and her husband in 1941 and owned until 1986.

Annette will be remembered for her loving and caring ways; and her devotion to her family, and the catholic religion. She prayed continuously for all of us. She is survived by 4 daughters, Huguette and husband Eugene of Bethel, Maine; Claire and daughter Kimberly of Bowdoinham, Maine; Diane and husband William of Bedford, New Hampshire; MarieLouise and her son Pete of Bath, Maine.

She was predeceased by her daughter Jacqueline Stone and her son Richard Dupuis.

The family wishes to thank Sunnybrook Village staff for their loving care during her last several years and Hospice volunteers for the care and support during her last hours. We are all very appreciative for all you’ve done!

Burial at Saint John’s Cemetery.

Donations in Mrs. Dupuis memory may be made to CHANS Hospice Volunteers in Brunswick, Maine.

To be continued…


Collection Claude Leblanc