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I am not much into muscle cars…

Who says genealogy has to be boring and roots searching is dumb…?

Not me, not Jim, and certainly not Ron.

I have been digging a lot lately

Here goes

409

I am not much into muscle cars… but I love this song and I often sing it with my daughter when we go out for a ride…

I don’t own a 409…

Ready for snow tires…

Click here… and sing along

She’s real fine my 409
She’s real fine my 409
My 409

Well I saved my pennies and I saved my dimes
(giddy up giddy up 409)
For I knew there would be a time
(giddy up giddy up 409)
When I would buy a brand new 409
(409, 409)
Giddy up giddy up giddy up 409
(giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 40…

Nothing can catch her
Nothing can touch my 409
409 ooooo

This one also…

Little deuce coupe, you don’t know
you don’t know what I got

Well, I’m not braggin’, babe,
so don’t put me down.
But I’ve got the fastest
set of wheels in town.
When something comes up to me
he don’t even try,
cos if it had a set of wings, man,
I know she could fly.

They don’t make cars like they use to anymore.

They don’t write song lyrics like they use to anymore.

My daughter reads my blog and she loves it as much as she loves her dad. I love her too.

For more info on the 409, click here.

Ron… This one is for you!

Hey Pierre, I found another root…

Only Ron clicks here.

Allright Jim… You can click too.

Manitoban with roots deep in New France

I’m not a big fan of the Beach Boys, but their music makes me vibrate.

Don’t know why?

Must be in my genes.

My uncle Jean-Louis Lagacé had a 1958 Cadillac DeVille Convertible, but that’s not a muscle car.

I still see it in my memories as a child.

I am more a Camaro guy type but I don’t have the money. Genealogy is less expensive.

They don’t make car commercials like they use to anymore.

You like Camaros?

Click here.

I won’t argue with Ron being a Corvette type guy especially when he operates his bulldozer.

Last one…?

Promise…

Hey is this a blog about genealogy or not?

Of course…

Just having a good time with two guys who found their roots here in Quebec and are getting around…

Having a hard time with some lyrics…?

Round round get around
I get around
Yeah
Get around round round I get around
I get around
Get around round round I get around
My kind o’ town
Get around round round I get around
I’m a real cool head
Get around round round I get around
I’m makin’ real good bread

I’m gettin’ bugged driving up and down this same old strip
I gotta finda new place where the kids are hip

My buddies and me are getting real well known
Yeah, the bad guys know us and they leave us alone

I get around
Get around round round I get around
My kind o’ town
Get around round round I get around
I’m a real cool head
Get around round round I get around
I’m makin’ real good bread
Get around round round I get around
I get around
Round
Get around round round oooo
Wah wa ooo
Wah wa ooo
Wah wa ooo

We always take my car cause it’s never been beat
And we’ve never missed yet with the girls we meet

None of the guys go steady cause it wouldn’t be right
To leave their best girl home now on Saturday night

I get around
Get around round round I get around
My kind o’ town
Get around round round I get around
I’m a real cool head
Get around round round I get around
I’m makin’ real good bread
Get around round round I get around
I get around
Round
Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah

Round round get around
I get around
Yeah
Get around round round I get around
Get around round round I get around
Wah wa ooo
Get around round round I get around
Oooo ooo ooo
Get around round round I get around
Ahh ooo ooo
Get around round round I get around
Ahh ooo ooo
Get around round round I get around
Ahh ooo ooo

Never could figure some lyrics…

My kind o’ town
Get around round round I get around
I’m a real cool head
Get around round round I get around
I’m makin’ real good bread

Now I can.

Now for something completely different..

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We all mellow when we grow old.

Watch out in the mirror for this one

I usually post an article only on Mondays.

But Ron is having so much fun in Southern Ontario while I am digging out from the latest snowstorm here in Ste-Anne-des-Plaines that…

Here goes…

Ron wrote me about Jim’s cars.


Pierre,

Send this picture to your friend Jim if you can?

Tell him Depatie says to watch out in the mirror for this one

Lol…

Ron

Black Beauty

Muscle car collection begins as an interest
becomes a hobby
continues as a vocation
takes over as an obsession
and in its last stages
is an incurable disease…

just like genealogy

Muscle cars…?



Catch me if you can sonny…

See you tomorrow for the big finale…

Final chapter

Ron Depatie would have never thought that his simple question about Joseph Euclide Depatie, the son of Léon Dépatie and Sophronie André, would trigger some kind of genealogical tsunami.

Tuna what…?

You never know down the long and winding road of genealogy what might come up.

It’s just like Odette Clouthier and Denis Cloutier who found a far distant cousin, or Mac (Mary Alice) who found someone as crazy as she thinks she is, even though she’s not that crazy after all…

Anyways…

Tomorrow is my birthday so I have to finish up this soap opera and start something new on New Year’s Day.

So I figure this…

Obéline or Eveline Lanthier, Fabien’s second wife, died when she gave birth to her last child Lucia.

Fabien had 11 children to take care of back in 1897.

He had to find a new wife.

In the 1901 Canadian census, Lucia is said to have been born on July 14, 1897.

Sauve Fabien?     M           Head     M     Jan 26     1851     50
Sauve Lola     F           Wife     M     Mar       1864     37
Sauve Hanah     F           Daughter     S     Jul 1     1889     11
Sauve Rosanna?     F           Daughter     S     Jul       1892     8
Sauve Albert     M           Son     S     May 5     1893     7
Sauve Alfred     M           Son     S     Mar       1895     6
Sauve Lucia     F           Daughter     S     Jul 14     1897
Sauve Honora     F           Daughter     S     Apr 25     1900     10 mos.

Source Information:
1901 Census of Canada
Subdistrict:    Lancaster, GLENGARRY, ONTARIO
District Number:    62
Subdistrict Number:    d-6
Archives Microfilm:    T-6468

We know that “Lola” has to be Sophie André and that Honora is most probably an error on the enumerator part and is in fact little Honoré Sauvé.

Fabien Sauvé married his third wife Sophie André on September 21, 1897.

That’s two months after Lucia’s birth.

We must then safely assume Eveline died when she gave birth.

Little Lucia Sauvé would go on her life and marry Jean-Baptiste Levac in 1917.

I wish I had a group photo of their marriage to show you all these people… Fabien, Sophie, Honoré, Albert, Alfred, Rosanna, and Anna…

Who knows?

Someday I might get an e-mail or a comment on my blog just like Ron did.

This is the only reason why I wrote this soap opera.

So let’s recap…

Fabien Sauvé married three times unless this person who posted a message in 2000 knows something we don’t know…

Hi Deborah,

Fabien Sauve is my great-grandfather. His daughter Blanche from his fourth marriage was my grandmother.

I have some information but not everything.

Fourth marriage!

Remember we are never 100% sure.

Tuna what…?

We are never completely 100% sure…

Remember Fabien Sauvé?

Ron told me in a comment on my blog that Fabien Sauvé was his great-grandfather’s friend.

That’s what he said…

Well I thought it was going to go like this on Fabien, IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON, THEN POOF INTO THE HOLY GHOST he would go, but I see the good man of the cloth of genealogy on this blog has him in his book.

I will stay close and see what happens to my great-grandfather’s friend Fabien Sauve.

Ron Belisle Depatie

Here’s Leon with his wife Sophranie André.

Oups, sorry wrong picture file…
That’s Ron with his bulldozer…

Here’s Léon…

Léon’s family

I think I discovered a whole lot more about Léon’s friend, but I am not 100% sure.

You see I found some information about one Fabien Sauvé who was married to at least two more women… Marie-Eveline Lanthier and Victorine Houle.

What I also found is one Fabien Sauvé living in Lancaster, Ontario in 1901 and 1911.

1901 Canadian census

Sauve Fabien?     M           Head     M     Jan 26     1851     50
Sauve Lola     F           Wife     M     Mar       1864     37
Sauve Hanah     F           Daughter     S     Jul 1     1889     11
Sauve Rosanna?     F           Daughter     S     Jul       1892     8
Sauve Albert     M           Son     S     May 5     1893     7
Sauve Alfred     M           Son     S     Mar       1895     6
Sauve Lucia     F           Daughter     S     Jul 14     1897
Sauve Honora     F           Daughter     S     Apr 25     1900     10 mos.

Source Information:
1901 Census of Canada
Subdistrict:    Lancaster, GLENGARRY, ONTARIO
District Number:    62
Subdistrict Number:    d-6
Archives Microfilm:    T-6468

What’s that Lola doing there?

It should be Sophie André or something like that…

1911 Canadian census

1911
Ontario
Glengarry
Lancaster

Sauve Fabien             M      Chef      M      juin      1861      59
Sauve Sophia L.           F     Epouse     M     mars     1864     47
Sauve Lucian           F     Fille     C     juil.     1897     14
Sauve Henry           M     Fils     C     juin     1899     11
Sauve Jane           F     Fille     C     fév.     1901     10
Sauve Harry           M     Fils     C     sept.     1905     7
Sauve Alice           F     Fille     C     mai     1906     5
Sauve Mon B.           F     Fille     C     oct.     1908     4
Sauve Janet           F     Fille     C     mai     1909     2

That’s more like it…

Sophie’s back, but now Fabien is born in 1861!

Never trust a census 100%…

Anyway, come back later for more.

As I said to Ron…

When we start looking for something, then we find a lot of new things that lead us to new things that open a lot of doors… and it goes on and on and on and on…

It never stops…

Stay tuned…

Honoré my dear, you didn’t forget to program the VCR didn’t you…?

Ron’s Boxing Day

Ron is reading this blog as if it was the Bible…

When you start reading my blog, you can’t stop finding so many things that enlighten your life. One of these is the Sauvé story and Odette Clouthier, my 4th cousin twice removed.

You see Ron Depatie knows he has some Sauvés in his family, and he was justifiably intrigued…

This is what Ron sent me just before Christmas…

and I was justifiably intrigued…

It was small but I could zoom in and read it.

Click on the image to zoom in

So Ron turned to me for guidance in all this…

So here goes…

This one’s for you Ron…

It’s on the house…

What we have here is the baptism act of Joseph Euclide Depatie son of Léon Depatie and Sophronie André.

Joseph Euclide Depatie, or call him Euclide for short, was born on December 23, 1913 and baptized on December 25.

Fabien Sauvé and Sophie André are Euclide’s godparents.

Ron wanted to know more about Fabien Sauvé…

So here I go…

Fabien Sauvé married Sophie André on September 21, 1897, in St-Télesphore, Soulanges, in the province of Quebec. That’s a village close to the Ontario border.

for the source click here

A view of St-Polycarpe church, it was built between 1834 and 1839.
It is located at 1256 Chemin de l’Eglise in the city of Saint-Polycarpe.

Fabien was a widower so I don’t have his parents’ names on the marriage act.

But I have a lead with his former wife’s name… Obéline Lanthier.

I found a marriage of one Fabien Sauvé with a Marie-Eveline Lantier in St-Polycarpe in 1891. This Fabien was also a widower.

Is it the same Fabien?

Stay tuned because the genealogy store is full of customers…

The long and winding road of Ron…

Ron Depatie was desperately searching for who had built la Maison Chaumont.

Ron thought Toussaint, the son of his ancestor Jacques Bélisle, had built la Maison Chaumont.

Nice job…

After Ron and I teamed up in our research, we believe that another Toussaint, the son of George Bélisle and Olivine Bélisle, built la Maison Chaumont. This Toussaint also built this house on 3rd Avenue…

Nice brick job… 

Ron who has some expertise in old houses renovation noticed something quite interesting.

The brick job was done by the same person.

Ron had to travel a long and winding road to find his roots, and he is still looking because when you start looking for your ancestors, they are everywhere.

All roads lead to Ron…

All roads lead to Ron…

Ron lives in Midhurst, Ontario.

Midhurst is not a stone throw away from Ste-Anne-des-Plaines.

But Ron had to come to Ste-Anne-des-Plaines to see where his ancestor Jacques Bélisle had lived back in the 1800s and he brought some family members along with him…

Ron gives a tour…

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ron had brought his father Leo along and Leo brought his 39 Chevy truck.

Nice truck…

Ron is knee-deep in genealogy. He’s been digging for seven years.

Ron found his Holy Grail when he visited me.

Two men obsessed with their roots talking about their ancestors while family members were listening and trying to follow what was being said.

Ron’s ancestors go back to Belle-Isle-en-Mer in Brittany.

I found some old postcards on the Internet…

I’m sure Ron will one day visit Belle-Isle-en-Mer.

His father Leo won’t be able to go there with his 39 Chevy truck though…

Just watch me…

 

Ron’s Labor Day

It’s Labor Day today. I hope you’re not working.

Ron’s search for who built la Maison Chaumont continues.

Ron Depatie thought Toussaint, the son  of his ancestor Jacques Bélisle, had built la Maison Chaumont.

My ancestor’s son built this…

Ron had written me a comment.

Hi from Ron Roture dit Belisle (known today as Ron Depatie)

This reply comes from reading an old blog I found on your site dated March 18, 2008 THE HOUSE OF CHAUMONT STE ANNE DES PLAINES.

Just wanted to let you know that there is an old family from Saint-Anne-des-Plaines coming out of the closet for the first time in over a hundred years today…

In this article you speak of Toussaint Belisle as being the local custom contractor to have built this house. I would just like to add, for any one who might be interested in knowing, that Toussaint Belisle an entrepreneur had three other brothers also, Léon, Élie, Frederick Belisle seen named as entrepreneurs in the area of Ste-Anne-des-Plaines and Montreal. They were the sons of Jacques Belisle and Elmere Therrien of Ste Anne’s. Leon Belisle also known as Leon Despatie was my great-grand-father.

Thru your blog that I just read today, I found out something I never knew and that was Toussaint was a home builder in Ste Anne’s and it would be neat to know if his brothers helped him on this one.

Well that’s all from me for now. I thank you for taking the time to read this and hope it gave some information that might be helpful to others.

Thank you.
Ronnie Roture dit Belisle dit Depatie

After searching and searching, Ron and I think that another Toussaint, the son of George Bélisle and Olivine Bélisle, was the builder. He built also this house on Third Avenue…

Ron is with his uncle Paul

However…

Ron has some expertise in old houses restoration and he noticed something quite interesting while examining la Maison Chaumont, the house on Third Avenue and also this one.


See you next Monday.

Ron’s back on track…

The Bélisle family of Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines is on the map as well as on the Internet, just as much as the Lagasse family is.

I don’t know where I am heading with this, but anyway… full speed ahead.

1939 Chevy

Three Toussaint Bélisle could have built la Maison Chaumont.

Click for a larger version…

Toussaint Bélisle the First was born on May 19, 1857 in Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines. This Toussaint was the son of Joseph Bélisle and Josephte Chaumont. Josephte could also have Josette and even Christine as a given name.

This Toussaint married Vitaline Duquette in 1880. The name Toussaint Despaties was written in the marriage certificate. After Vitaline’s death, Toussaint married Alphonsine Lapointe in 1894. Toussaint Bélisle was written in marriage certificate. His mother’s name became Marie-Louise Chaumont…

In the 1891 Canadian census, we find that this Toussaint is a carpenter which should make him a serious candidate for the builder of Maison Chaumont.

Toussaint Bélisle the Second was born on October 30, 1858, also in Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines. According to his marriage certificate he is the son of Georges Bélisle and Olivine Bélisle dit Goyet. Georges is a farmer in the 1881 Canadian census as well as his son Toussaint…

Toussaint Bélisle the Third was born on October 31, 1858, one day after Toussaint the Second. His parents are Jacques Bélisle and Elmire Therrien.

This is Ron’s lineage.

A working man, Ron Depatie dit Roture dit Bélisle dit Rotureau

Jacques Bélisle lives in le Trait-Carré according to the 1881 Canadian census. He is a laborer just like his son Toussaint.

Of our three Toussaint, only one seems, for the time being, to have the necessary skills to build the house  of Joseph Chaumont… except that… whether we are talking house building or genealogy, we should never that anything for granted.

We will try to get to the bottom of this on Labor Day.