Je suis de retour…

Sometimes you have to be patient.

8 years for that matter. To find the great-great-great-great-grandfather of my five new found fourth cousins three times removed.

Compliqué? Pas du tout.

This is how it all started.

1851-1922

This photocopy is something that I had picked up in 2009 or was it 2008…

It doesn’t matter if it was in 2009 or in 2008, or even in 2007 when I got hooked on genealogy. Pierre Adolphe Lagassé was born in 1851 according to his baptismal act seen here.

I could translate it for you if you want to. Pierre Adolphe was born 14 March 1851. His godfather is Antoine Lagassé. Don’t get confused by the spelling because I have seen everything. Pierre married Mélanie Berthiaume on August 22nd, 1873 in Bedford, Missisquoi County, Quebec, Canada. They had these children.

Some died very young and some had descendants searching for them.

When Pierre Adolphe emigrated to the U.S. his name became Lagasse. Pierre was an undertaker by trade so was his son Frobe seen here with his wife Valéda Forand and their three children Laurent, Norman and Blanche.

                                       Blanche, Frobe, Laurent, Joseph Norman, Valéda Forand

Frobe is seen here again with his wife and a lot of people. Blanche is the baby girl.

Blanche is seen here again holding her son Edward. Valéda is next to her with Philomène Lussier.

Blanche had a daughter also…

Dolly!

Dolly and Edward

Dolly was Marie Dolores Robitaille. She married John F. Schneider.This I did not know until Stephanie told me.

I don’t have more information about Dolly’s and John’s life. What I know is that Stephanie knows it all and she can now share all my research with her husband and her five sons.

 

Click on the image

And finding who’s who on that group picture.

Blanche Lagasse daughter of Valéda Forand and Frobe Lagasse

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Where in the world did my grandparents get married?

In 2007 that was sort of an obsession.

Where in the world did my grandparents get married?

They never did get married!

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My father with the sailor uniform is with my grandmother Juliette just behind (circa 1929)

But before I found that out, I had searched near and far for my paternal grandfather’s father and mother. I had search on the Internet, on databanks, on genealogy forums, on several genealogy Websites, on U.S. and Canadian censuses, on Find a Grave…

I made hypotheses like where did my grandfather, who was also my godfather, had picked up my given name? 

Pierre…

This is how I met Blanche and Frobe for the first time. People I didn’t know had ever existed.

Then someone shared this old picture as she was somewhat related to the Lagasses.

Frobe Lagasse is on the right in the first row and Blanche is the baby being held by her mother Valéda Forand.

How I found out about Frobe Lagasse?

His father was Pierre Adolphe Lagacé. I had known back in 2009 who were finally my grandfather’s father and mother, but I had kept a close eye on that other branch. I did not want all this research to go to waste so I wrote about it.

Pierre Adolphe was the son of Pierre Lagacé (another Pierre) and Marcelline David.

14 March 1851

Pierre was born in 1825 according to this headstone.

Headstones are a secondary source because errors are sometimes found.

His brother Stanislas (Stanislas I), born in 1816, was my great-great-grandfather. Stanislas died March 28, 1900.

This could very well be where I got my given name, from my great-great-grandfather’s brother. Or was it because my great-grandfather Stanislas (Stanislas II) had a brother who was also named Pierre?  

I know by looking at this old picture that Stanislas II and his brother Pierre seemed very close, at least on a park bench…

Pierre (1845- ?) and Stanislas II (1842-1927)

I could never find out when Pierre died. That’s the “?”.

I know a lot about my side of the family, but I don’t know everything.

I know also a lot about Pierre Adolphe seen here on an image I took from the Internet in 2010, but I don’t know everything.

Sometimes people find this blog and start writing. Then they stop writing…like the person who sent me this and said he had more.

I don’t mind waiting because what I find I share for future generations. I understand why some people are not interested in finding their roots, but when they do and write a comment on this blog…

Amazing photographs!  I am partial I suppose as I also have 5 sons!  Thank you for sharing these!  I had the names of Frobe’s parents but nothing further, so that is wonderful as well!

 

I start writing…and sharing.

Descendants of Pierre Lagassé and Marcelline David

Very few people know they are descendants of Pierre Lagassé and Marcelline David.

I am not one of them…

Strange isn’t to have searched for these people’s descendants since 2009?

Blanche and Edward

Blanche Lagasse is holding her son Edward Louis Robitaille born in 1921. Her mother Valéda Forand is behind her. The other women is Philomène Lussier,  Valéda’s mother.

Not much interesting unless you know who these people are on a picture dated around 1922…

Who was Edward Louis Robitaille?

Edward Louis Robitaille

Find a Grave

Here’s Edward with his sister Dolly.

Edward and Dolly

Dolly and Edward

Here’s Dolly with her father Louis Robitaille.

Dolly and Louis Robitaille

This is Louis’ father…

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Jerry Robitaille

This is my file on Blanche Lagasse.

Blanche Lagasse's file

Blanche’s father was Frobe Lagasse.

Here’s Frobe with his family.

Frobe Lagasse's family

Blanche, Frobe, Laurent, Joseph Norman, Valéda Forand

Blanche is the little girl on the left. Blanche, born March 15, 1902, left this world on January 9, 2002.

But did she really leave us?

Valéry Forand Blanche and Frobe

Blanche in the summer of 1903 with her mother Valeda Forand holding her…

Cousin Joe

I think cousin  Joe sent me this a  few years  back. It was about a man called Bob.

 

If he lived in the North End of Bristol he has to be your Lagasse

Mid-afternoon on Dec. 7, 1941, I was playing hide and seek with a group of kids from the neighborhood in the north end of Bristol when someone interrupted the game to tell us that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. “Where’s Pearl Harbor?” I asked. “In Hawaii,” they replied. Being that I was a knowledgeable 10-year-old and had studied geography, I summed up the situation quickly. “Did you ever see how small Japan is, compared to us?” I questioned. “We’ll beat ’em in a few weeks,” I analyzed. As I was saying this I was thinking, “If they mess around with my brother, he’ll show ’em.” I quickly ran home and dashed up the stairs to see if everyone knew of the news. As I looked into the living room, it was obvious that they had. Mom was seated and crying and Dad was consoling her. The radio was on giving the accounts of what was known at that time, which was sketchy and often unconfirmed.

The main concern for Mom’s world was that her son was in the Army in Camp Blanding, Fla., and the one-year training commitment would now become a war requirement for an undetermined period. Although Dad was saying all the right words to Mom, it appeared to me that his heart wasn’t really in it. He was less visibly upset than Mom, but I believe that he was more deeply concerned, having World War I experience to call on. It was an anxious, wait-and-see environment for many years to come.

Bob Lagasse

Bristol

Post 1050 – Remembering Elusive Dennis

That’s quite a lot of posts for a blog about genealogy, a blog remembering this man and his descendants.

Dennis Lagasse II

Collection Dennis Lagasse IV

I can only guess his character by the pictures that have been shared by my distant cousins.

Dennis Lagasse II (1842-1927)

Collection Dennis Lagasse IV

I’m sure he was a family man.

Dennis Lagasse wedding pictureCollection Dennis Lagasse IV

Elusive Dennis

Collection Dennis Lagasse IV

Someone once called him Elusive Dennis. His real name was Stanislas Lagacé son of Stanislas Lagacé and Onésime Cadieux.

This next picture made him famous, at least on Our Ancestors, as well as his son Dennis Lagassey III, his grandson Harry Lagasse and his great-grandson Gerard Lagasse born June 9, 1916.

 

four generations of Lagasse

Dennis Lagassey III is seen here with his five sons: Levi Napoleon, Harvey, Victor Philippe, Harry, and Joseph.

Dennis Lagasse III and some of his sons

Collection Dennis Lagasse IV

I know all about Dennis Lagassey III and his five sons. I also know all about his daughters: Rose (beside her father), Ida, Bertha, Odna, Gertrude, and in front Antoinette, and Alice.

picture from Dennis 1.1

I know all about his wife Amanda Ménard.

AMANDA MENARD

So what about Elusive Dennis on this group picture?

27 people.

Elusive Dennis

I know where Elusive Dennis is, but with Amanda Ménard on the extreme left in the third row I can’t positively identify anyone else. I have a hunch though we have a bunch of Dubes…Dubés…Dubeys on this group picture.

2 out of 27, that ain’t much!

Post 1050…

That’s the reason I have been posting so much since 2009, and have replied to every comment left on this blog about remembering this man.

Dennis II and Dennis III

I should ease up a bit don’t you think?

Hard to believe?

André Mignier first ancestor

What about this clue I found on the Internet among the other clues? Is it valid information or just information copied from someone’s else research?

One clue tells all!

Michel Mignier born around 1610 died in 1727!

117 years old!

Suspicious enough not to trust everything I found yesterday in my search for George Lagasse who married Albertine Deschênes.

I have learned not to trust everything I find on the Internet, or people who say they know it all. Having been hooked on genealogy since 2007 because of old pictures like this one…

Honoré Sauvé et Julie Leroux

I have learned more than just who were my ancestors. Always check first, then check again, and again.

This being said…

This information seems valid though.

Napoléon Lagacé

I can corroborate this information with this.

1901 Joseph L Lagassé

Joseph L. Lagassé’s family is seen here. Joseph’s wife is Ellen Lagassé who was in fact Helen Grant whose daughter was Anna Ellen Lagassé born in 1900 whose real name was…

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Mrs. Lejeune was the mid-wife.

In 1901, Joseph was a carpenter. Ernest Thibeault was a lodger, and I suspect he was related somewhat to Joseph’s first wife Marie Thibault, Napoléon’s mother.

Napoléon Lagacé

Marie Thibault probably died when she gave birth to Marie Julia in 1896.

Joseph Lagace

Joseph had to remarry, and he found a new wife living not far from where he lived…

1891 James Grant

 

The puzzle

The puzzle  started  in 2010 when I wrote  this post. 

Two interested people commented, one in 2011, and the other in 2015.

Holly (Legasse) Dube says:

My name is Holly (Legasse) Dube.
I stumbled on your site while trying to find my ancestry.
My father is George Philip Legasse.(originally Lagasse, but was misspelled in the military).

My Grandfather was George A Lagasse. From there I am stumped. I do not have info on my Grandfather’s family.
George was married to Albertine (Deschenes) Lagasse and lived in New Britain, CT.

I was reading your site.
You posted about one of Idala’s sons, George (1908-1985).
He was one of the sons sent to an orphanage.
Did you or Alyce ever get more information on that George???

I don’t know much about that part of my family.
I was just reunited with my father 2 years ago.

My father and my Uncle Gene may have more information on my Grandfather George.

skilmer1969 says:

I would love to be in contact with Holly from above comment or anyone in relation to “George was married to Albertine (Deschenes) Lagasse and lived in New Britain, CT”.

Albertine is my 1st cousin 2x removed and she has a sister who is currently still living in the same home that Albertine was in at the time of her death. Looking forward to hearing from family members.

I can’t recall if Holly replied to my e-mails, but the next one surely did, and gave me enough clues to look further in the past.

Obits for life

To be continued in Belledune, New Brunswick, Canada in 1901.

1901 Joseph L Lagassé

Another piece of the puzzle

Albertine (Deschene) Lagasse, 91, of New Britain, died Saturday (Oct. 16, 2010) at the Jerome Home in New Britain. Born in Baker Lake, Canada, the daughter of the late Dennis and Agnes (Boutot) Deschene, she lived most of her life in New Britain. She had been employed at a watch factory in Waterbury and retired from the Fafnir Bearing Co. (now Textron) in New Britain. She was the wife of the late George Lagasse.

Albertine is survived by three sons Robert Blouin of Florida, Gene Lagasse of Rhode Island and Florida, and George Lagasse of Colorado; a sister Martha Roy of Bristol, several nieces and nephews including Cynthia Tenan and numerous grandchildren. She was predeceased by two sons Larry Lagasse and Maurice Lagasse.

Funeral services were held privately.

I was searching everywhere for my ancestors…

I was searching everywhere for my ancestors but I had reached a dead end…

dead leaves on the ground

I was not going anywhere. I could not find my paternal ancestors, but I kept on looking, and looking, and looking.

detective

 

I was searching for all the Lagasses I could lay my hands on.

This is where I found this Pierre Lagasse who was married to Marceline Davies.

She died in 1906 from a heart disease.

death certificate Marcelline David

I felt like an adopted descendant.

So I got curious.

Little did I know back in 2008 that this Pierre Lagasse (I have the same name except at the end), born in 1825, was my great-great-grandfather’s brother.

He had married Marcelline David not Davies.

Curious?

marriage Pierre Lagassée

Looking at her death certificate I wondered who was that A. P. Lagasse, the undertaker.

I got curious some more and I found this picture on the Internet.

Adolphe Lagasse

 

That was the picture of Adolphe Pierre Lagasse, the undertaker who did the embalming of his mother Marcelline David…

Then I got even more curious when I found out that Adolphe Pierre Lagasse’s brother was Idala Lagasse. This is how Idala Lagasse led me to his granddaughter Alice who was looking for her roots since 2000…

Idala 1930