Joseph Mignier dit Lagacé’s parents – Redux

Written exacty three years ago!

That was before I met virtually Dennis Lagasse the Fourth from Connecticut, and more than 100 precious old pictures his father Lionel had kept.

Boy was I excited!

 

Just a glimpse…

Time flies doesn’t it?

Last day of July.

Is time spent looking for our ancestors a waste of time…?

Of course it’s not.

Brian LeGacy told me he could not get to sleeep after I gave him a helping hand and he started digging for himself.

Is it worth losing sleep over our ancestors…?

Of course it’s worth.

Some psychologists say that we can find strength when we discover our roots.

I am no psychologist but I think we might have something there.

Pierre Lagacé and his brother Stanislas Lagacé (Dennis Lagasse) on a park bench probably in Connecticut probably around 1905

You see back in 2007 when I started getting interested in genealogy I did not know Stanislas Lagacé had ever existed. Of course I knew I had a great-grandfather but I knew nothing of my grandfather’s parents. Four years later, I am helping people find their roots.

Joseph Mignier dit Lagacé was the son of Michel Mignier dit Lagacé. You will find some information on the Internet and some also on Ancestry.

But beware!

Some information that are suggested might be erronous down the road. I just found out on Ancestry that some people have “discovered” André Mignier dit L’Agacé grandparents!

Wow that is quite a big surprise…!

WRONG!

I don’t mind some little errors on dates, but this couple got married in 1802! André Mignier came in New France in 1665 with the Carignan Salières  regiment.

Oups…

I won’t lose any sleep over this, but I find it a little annoying when some people put such wrong information about their ancestors or other people’s ancestors….

This reminds me of a distant 3rd cousin of mine who had my mother’s birthdate wrong on his family tree. I told him politely. He never changed it!

Go figure…

Finally, the final link to Brian’s roots…

Now Brian can get some sleep.

Now it’s Bonnie’s turn to get all excited.

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Thank you for getting back to me… – Redux

Four years ago…

Sandy was one of the first cousin to write.

My new found distant cousin Sandy posted a message on my new Ancestry family tree page.

I had decided last month to migrate my family tree from My Heritage to Ancestry.

Sandy must have been all excited when she found out that another Lagacé had information on her ancestors and that he wrote back so quickly.

I’m quick on the trigger…

Hi Pierre,

Thank you for getting back to me.

With your information online. They match up to my family tree.

Last year a cousin gave me quite a few photos of the Lagasse line. And I have been researching them with where they were taken. They are from Bristol, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

And I have just cleared up a mystery on the Dennis Lagasse  person as he changed his name from Stanislas Lagasse who married Henriette Alexandre.

I have been going round and round with the name Dennis Lagasse.

I think the photos I have are from this family. Not sure of the names, but they are taken in Bristol, Connecticut.

I have gotten all the way back on our line. Lots of information.

I have researched the whole line that was in Fall River, Massachusetts and New Bedford, Massachusetts, and Bristol, Connecticut on the Lagasse line.

My line from Stanislas Lagasse and Onésime Cadieux.

Their child  Pierre Lagasse married Mathilde Leblanc.

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Pierre Lagasse and Mathilde Leblanc’s child was Julian Wilfred Lagasse.   I am sending a photo of him with brothers and one I am not sure of.

Sitting: left is Julian Wilfred Lagasse and Joseph Lagasse is to the right.

I received them from his son Edmond and his wife.  When she passed away then their children gave them to me.

I also have a photo of Pierre Lagasse married to Mathilde Leblanc.

If you would like to see the photos I have then I will send them along to you.

Sandy

If you have been reading my blog, then you know how crazy I am about photographs…

See you next Monday with more photos from Sandy’s collection and more about the mysterious Dennis Lagasse.

Arther Myers, the only son of Xavier Myers – Redux

I am reposting this article.

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I have made many loyal friends since 2009.

This is why I was thinking about posting only once a week during this Christmas season.

I know Christmas is a good time to reflect upon our ancestors, but I want to give you more time for others chores and easy up a bit on the story of the ancestors of little Exeurie Myers.

Just like Jean-Baptiste Lemaire was the only son of Chrétien Myers, Arther Myers was the only son of Xavier (Exeurie) Myers.

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Arther Julien Myers and Rosealina Alma LaRose

This beautiful picture was shared by Jason.

Jason is linked to Exeurie Myers.

It is almost impossible to link Exeurie Myers to Xavier Myers, a direct descendant of Chrétien Lemaire, a rifleman in the Hesse Hanau regiment.

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But I did, and I probably found a link with the past history of the American Revolution.

This is where I came in handy to link Jason to Exeurie Myers and Exeurie with his ancestor Chrétien Lemaire. Being French-Canadian, I have come across some funny spelling from people who had copied parish registers for Ancestry.

Exeurie Myers was in fact Exeuvie Myers seen here on this marriage certificate. If you say Exeuvie out loud several times, you will hear Xavier if your mother tongue is French.

That’s how I found the missing link!

That spelling carried on through time when Xavier’s son Arther Myers married Rose Alma Larose in Springfield on April 22, 1907.

Exeurie Myers spelling

I have asked Jason permission to post this beautiful old picture.

Arther and Rose 6How can I be sure Arther Myers was the son of Exeurie Myers aka Xavier Myers, who was the brother of Julien Myers who married Agnes Lagasse, my great-grandaunt?

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How can you trust someone who has been writing this blog since September 2009 with this?

Simple.

You’ll just have to come back on Boxing Day!

I’ll show you more old pictures of that young couple madly in love.

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Stop

I will continue on with this story because Jason has shared so much and I don’t want to let him down. I know we had a hard winter, but that’s no reason NOT to share what Jason has so generously shared.

Arther Myers, the only son of Xavier Myers

I have made many loyal friends since 2009.

This is why I was thinking about posting only once a week during this Christmas season.

I know Christmas is a good time to reflect upon our ancestors, but I want to give you more time for others chores and easy up a bit on the story of the ancestors of little Exeurie Myers.

Just like Jean-Baptiste Lemaire was the only son of Chrétien Myers, Arther Myers was the only son of Xavier (Exeurie) Myers.

Arther and Rose 6

Arther Julien Myers and Rosealina Alma LaRose

This beautiful picture was shared by Jason.

Jason is linked to Exeurie Myers.

It is almost impossible to link Exeurie Myers to Xavier Myers, a direct descendant of Chrétien Lemaire, a rifleman in the Hesse Hanau regiment.

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But I did, and I probably found a link with the past history of the American Revolution.

This is where I came in handy to link Jason to Exeurie Myers and Exeurie with his ancestor Chrétien Lemaire. Being French-Canadian, I have come across some funny spelling from people who had copied parish registers for Ancestry.

Exeurie Myers was in fact Exeuvie Myers seen here on this marriage certificate. If you say Exeuvie out loud several times, you will hear Xavier if your mother tongue is French.

That’s how I found the missing link!

That spelling carried on through time when Xavier’s son Arther Myers married Rose Alma Larose in Springfield on April 22, 1907.

Exeurie Myers spelling

I have asked Jason permission to post this beautiful old picture.

Arther and Rose 6How can I be sure Arther Myers was the son of Exeurie Myers aka Xavier Myers, who was the brother of Julien Myers who married Agnes Lagasse, my great-grandaunt?

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How can you trust someone who has been writing this blog since September 2009 with this?

Simple.

You’ll just have to come back on Boxing Day!

I’ll show you more old pictures of that young couple madly in love.

Arther and Rose 2

Jason knows and Steve knows

Note

I have taken out a picture of a headstone that I had found on Find A Grave.

I posted that picture on this blog without asking first permission to do it.

It was an honest mistake.

I apologized to this person and I told her I had learned my lesson and I was deleting all the articles that were related to the headstone of Exeurie Myers.

It won’t ever happened again.

***

I have never met Jason nor Steve personally. I found Steve on a message he had left on a genealogy forum and I found Jason through Ancestry thanks to a message my 3rd cousin Joe sent him.

Steve has shared with me what little pictures he had of his ancestors…

He only had three ships.

USS Dane

U.S.S. Dane

USS Pensacola

U.S.S. Pensacola

USS Stoddard

U.S.S. Stoddard

Now Jason and Steve know all about their Myers ancestors because I have invited them to view my Ancestry tree which has more than 30,000 files.

Remember how all this started in the first place…

A headstone!

Agnes Lagasse

Found during a little walk in a cemetery with my 3rd cousin Joe.

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Genealogy will become a hobby for now and it will take second stage for my blogs about WWII. There is a lot going out there since last November, and it’s hard to keep proper focus on Our Ancestors.

This being said, Jason’s ancestor was in fact Xavier Myers even if we find the name Exeurie Myers in different documents. His descendants wanting to know more about Exeurie Myers would have a hard time finding who were Exeurie’s ancestors.

This is little Exeurie Myers in the 1861 Canadian Census taken in Stanbridge, Quebec.

1861 Médard Myers

He is listed as Francis Y Miers.

1861 François-Xavier Myers

The census man was an anglophone so he wrote what he had heard in 1861 after he knocked on the door.

Francis Y Miers was François-Xavier Myers. His given name came from St. François-Xavier.

To know more about that saint, click here, but you don’t have to.

Saint François-Xavier

So what does that census page tell us about little Exeurie?

He was 5 years-old in 1861 so his birthyear is around 1856.

Is that enough proof?

Not enough for any amateur genealogist…

To be continued next week even though I could go on, and on, and on with this…

Before I leave for the rest of the week, these are Xavier’s siblings.

Émilie Myers     1838 –

Médard Myers     1840 –

Marie Myers     1843 –

Julien Myers    1848 – 1886

Philomène Myers     1850 –

Marie Myers     1851 – 1883

Jean-Baptiste Myers     1852 –

Rose Myers     1858 –

Rose Myers was born on November 4th, 1858.

Rose Myers 1858

She married Louis Lagasse born January 1st, 1854.

Louis Lagasse 1854

Louis Lagasse is this man’s brother.

Dennis Lagasse II

I know all about Louis’ descendants, but I have never heard from any of them. I guess they don’t read this blog.

Click here.

Then click here if you like war stories…

This is a preview of next Monday’s post.

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Why I keep writing this blog?

Post No 620

Why I keep writing this blog?

The reason is simple… I like old pictures and people keep sending them!

Teresa, Amanda Ménard’s great-great-granddaughter, sent me this picture along with the other family pictures you saw yesterday on Thanksgiving. 

Amanda Ménard

Amanda Ménard

This woman is not my ancestor, but I know a lot about her.

In 2010 I thought Amanda Ménard was no. 15 on that picture. I was sure her husband was no. 12. He was my granduncle, my grandfather’s brother.

That was the first time I had seen his face, and I got all excited.

Some of Amanda Ménard’s and Dennis Lagassey’s children were on this picture: Levi, no. 10 and Ida, no. 3.

Bertha with family in Bristol

The little girl was little Germaine, the daughter of no. 5 and no. 2.

I have a picture of little Germaine.

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No. 1

This is the original picture sent in 2009 by someone’s mother I scared away.

original picture of the Lagasse family

No. 12 was Pepere.

I have sometimes scared away people with my passion for old pictures and putting names on faces instead of numbers like woman no. 2.

Alice Myers!

Sounds familiar?

I have been writing this blog with the hope that someone might be willing to share old pictures of his or her ancestors who could be distant relatives…

Robin did just that in 2011 even if she was not related to me. Her husband was.

She sent me this picture of these people seen here. She did not have to send it but she did. Philomène was a great-grandaunt I had never seen before, and I was able to identify who were the others after a few trials and errors.

Jean-Baptiste Alexandre I family

Jean-Baptiste Alexandre, his wife Philomène Lagacé,
their daughters Myra, Mary and Helen with her two boys

I did not scare Robin away and she scanned more than 150 photos so I could post them on this blog.

These next distant relatives seen here on a photocopy of a picture was sent by Dennis Lagasse IV in 2011.

picture from Dennis 1.1

These people are mostly the same people seen on this picture.

original picture of the Lagasse family

Dennis had shared what little knowledge he had at that time about his grandfather Levi Napoleon (Levi), the no. 8 guy, and his great-grandfather Dennis III (Pepere).

On the photocopy, Pepere is seen between his daughter Mary on the left and his wife Amanda Ménard on the right. All 11 children are on the picture.

I did not scare Dennis IV away with my passion for old pictures. On the contrary he sent me later an old man’s picture part of a collection of more than 100 pictures his father Lionel had kept.

Dennis Lagasse II

Stanislas Lagacé

Then he scanned all the rest of the pictures.

That old man was my great-grandfather Stanislas Lagacé II. He changed his name when he emigrated to the U.S. He was Dennis Lagassey III’s father and my grandfather’s father.

Stanislas Lagacé (Dennis II) was the son of Stanislas Lagassé I, who also had changed his name to Dennis Lagasse when he emigrated to the U.S.

Confused?

I am not after having written 620 posts on this blog.

file Stanislas Lagacé

I keep writing this blog because I like to share what people have shared.

I would like to show you a picture of my great-grandmother Harriett Alexander who married Dennis Lagasse II in 1862. Her real name was Henriette Alexandre, but I only have Henriette’s file on Ancestry to show you.

Ancestry file of Henriette Alexandre

I know there are pictures of Henriette somewhere in the U.S., and I would be more than delighted to see them.

So, this is also why I keep writing this blog.

I keep writing to get lost ancestors reunited with their descendants who share my passion for genealogy and old pictures.

Like Donna who sent me the original of the photocopy, and have shared so much information and photos in 2013.

Dennis Lagassey family

So if this woman is your great-grandmother, your great-great-grandmother, or your great-great-great-grandmother, and you are now excited about all these pictures, and you have old pictures of people you don’t have the faintess idea who they are…

Amanda Ménard

Then feel free to contact me by writing a comment or using this form below.

I just hope I did not scare you away with all this. If I did, then at least you know where Dennis Lagasse IV got his given name…


Steve’s family tree

So what about all this research I have done to find descendants of Médard Lemeyer who was born on November 2, 1813.

1813 Médard Lemayer 2 novembre

He became known later in life as Medard Myers, and he left a lot of descendants south of the border who don’t know a thing about him.

Steve Myers is one of Médard Myers’ descendants.

I won’t show you all of Steve’s family tree from Médard Myers on down.

It’s too big.

Médard Myers descendants

I would like to show you a baby picture of Médard, but this is the only picture I got.

1813 Médard Lemayer 2 novembre zoom

Steve can look at all the research I have done about his ancestor. He has access to it on my Ancestry site.

This is Médard’s file taken from a print screen.

file Medard MyersClick on the image for a larger view

I have found everything about Médard Lemeyer who became known as Médard Lemaire and then Medard Myers.

I could go on and on, and on with this story of Steve’s new found old family and tell you all about this picture.

Médard Myers

Or this one…

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But I would probably bore you to death.

What I will show instead might be of interest to you…

USS Dane

USS Dane

USS Pensacola

USS Pensacola

USS Stoddard

USS Stoddard

You can click on the images to see more details.

Steve Myers has shared these three pictures with this information about his grandfather and his great-grandfather.

I think it’s great!

Hi Pierre,

Attached are photos of 3 ships. I thought that these were vessels my grandfather had served on, but after doing some quick research online, I’m not so sure.
 
Notes: USS Pensacola (CA 24): On the back of the photo it says: USN 422603 and SEPT 35. I believe this means the photo was taken in September 1935.
 
USS Stoddard (DD566): On the back it says USN 635232 and 25 FEB 54. Both photos are marked “OFFICIAL NAVY PHOTO. RELEASED”
 
Some other things I know about my grandfather: He retired as a Lt. Commander. He was qualified as an aviator, and flew blimps specifically.

Hope this is of interest to you,
 
Steve

Blimps?

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Why was this picture in Lionel Lagasse’s old family album, part of more than 100 old pictures his grandson Dennis Lagasse IV scanned for me in 2011?

Coincidence?

Most probably…

Could anyone of some of unidentified people in this collection of old pictures be related to the Myers?

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Everything is possible.

Old pictures

A little intermission in our search for Chrétien Lemaire’s descendants.

I know I might be hard to follow sometimes.

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Sometimes it takes time to find all about your ancestors.

We have to be patient.

I still have pictures in my collection that beg to be identified.

This young woman is still unknown.

unknown young lady

That picture was taken in Bristol probably in the late 1890s. My cousin Joe had it in his collection of old pictures when I visited him in 2012. He also had this one without a name.

young Myra Alexandre

Myra Alexandre

I knew who she was!

The unknown young woman could be related to Steve, but I doubt it. She could be related to Myra Alexandre.

Sandy had a lot of old pictures in her collection back in 2010 when she first contacted me through Ancestry.

She had this picture.

possible Malvina Lagasse late 1890's Bristol, Conn.

And this one.

Myra and Phebe

Both were unknown sisters back in 2010.

Things have changed a lot since then.

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This picture in Joe’s collection of old pictures was taken around the same time.

young Myra Alexandre

Myra Alexandre

Same photographer, same place…

I took me all this time to figure out what the unknown young woman might be related to Myra Alexandre and her sister Phoebe.

Aunt Phoebe and Aunt Myra

collection of Robin’s old pictures

But I could be wrong, and that young woman might be related more to Steve.

unknown young lady

These old pictures from Sandy’s collection could also be related to Steve.

about late 1890's Wedding , Bristol, Conn.

Someday I am sure we will find out who was who on these pictures.

montage unknown couple

And also this one.

Lagasse -Maybe

What’s in a Name?

Many Americans will never find their French Canadian roots because of their surname.

If your ancestors’ surname is Burgess it could be in fact Bourgeois just like Pam who wrote me a message on Ancestry a few months ago about Bella Bourgeois.

I always take the time to answer back because you nevah, nevah know…

Same with Susan who also wrote. Both are somewhat addicted to genealogy so I didn’t have to lend a helping hand that much although I was happy to translate some French documents for them.

Getting back to Steve and genealogy, Arthur Joseph Myers was in fact Arthur Joseph Lemaire.

His real name could also be Arthur Joseph Bretmeyer if some research done on the Lemaires are true.

What about all this Bretmeyer – Lemaire lineage?

These are a few notes I found on the Internet back in 2011 when I was searching for Myers and Lemaires in my family tree.

This is an exchange of messages between John Merz and Paul Lamoureux on a genealogy forum.

Very interesting…

very interestingHere I found the BRETMEYER File which did confirm that Christian was a soldier of the British 53rd regiment.

Chrétien LemaireThis is from document 24226 and 24227 of microfilm C-2511 (RG1 L3L) including the discharge from the 53rd, dated Montreal, 24. Dec.1783.

Btw. it gave his place of birth as the parish of Swannabach, which I identified as 39397 Schwanebeck, State of Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany.

Hope this helps.
John Merz

 

Dear Paul,

I am forwarding this to my two mail lists which are the one’s with the experts on Hessians and in the same time the experts in Quebec genealogy.

This is a very interesting case we have here, and you raise some interesting questions.

Christian or Christoph LEMAIRE/LAMERE/LEMERE that’s how he is listed in HETRINA VI (Hanau troops).

He was born 1736/37 in Moempelgard Montbéliard?), France and joined the 2.Comp. of the Hanau Chasseur Corps in Feb. 1777, meaning, he was with them from the beginning when the Corps was established in Hanau.

He did have some career, and I wish I knew more about it, but that what the Hetrina entries indicate. He was first a private, and was promoted to Corporal in Dec. 1777. It is possible that as a member of the 2. Comp. under Captain Castendyck, he participated in the siege of Stanwix and the battle of Oriskany in August 1777.

Somehow in September 1780 he is listed as a deserter, but he did return in May of 1782 and was demoted to a private. In July 1783 he did receive his honourable discharge from the Corps and remained in Quebec. This is what the military records provide.

As to your other question about French names in Hessian towns, my hometown Hanau is full of French names. Huguenots, Wallones, who build a new city – Neuhanau outside the old-Althanau in the 17th century, when they were prosecuted and driven out of France.

Many of the descendants served in Hanau troops one time or another, and particularly during the American Revolution. This is what makes it so hard for me to trace them in Quebec. Their names disappeared in the records, while German names stuck out like sore thumps.

Now I have given you what I have, but I know there will be some readers of this with much more information, and I wish they would post their answers to this list, because you are not the only one who is interested.

Good luck and happy hunting.
John Merz

From: “Paul Paula Lamoureux” <>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:10 PM
> Subject: Hesse-Hanau
>
>
After reading many of the queries, I was hoping that you may be of assistance in giving me a clue with solving a problem I am having regarding one of my ancestors. The surname in question is ” Lemaire” He married Catherine Lentendre 1789 in Sorel, Quebec.

According to a book (which I haven’t seen) called Debor Herbert Wilhem. “German Soldiers of the American War of Independence as Settlers in Canada”, there are supposed to be two Lemaires listed as arriving in 1776-77. A Chrétien Lemaire, (Brunswick soldier discharged in North America in 1783 from the Hesse-Hanau Rangers)? Lemaire, which I am hoping may be my ancestor.

Source Wilhelmy, Jean-Pierre. German Mercenaries in Canada, Beloeil, Quebec, arriving in 1776…….
The question I have: most of the soldiers in the Hessian Army, came from Germany. I haven’t seen any French names listed, or the place of origin from France. Is there a possibility that the name may have been changed from? to Lemaire when they stayed in Canada. I am aware of one name that was changed to Lebleu but that is all.

Thanks

Paul Lamoureux

A little piece of American Revolution history:
French-Canadian girls marrying Hessian soldiers between 1783-1800:
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I’ll quote first from my book “He was a Hessian” (out of print);

“The rulers of six principalities had signed contracts with the British to supply up to 30,000 troops for the fight against the American rebels. Most of those troops were regular army units, the soldiers were regular drafted men. also by no means were they Volunteers or what is still claimed today, that they were “Mercenaries”.

They most certainly were not!

However, smaller units were put together by some princes which were known as the Chasseur Corps. Those men were the true mercenaries, they were volunteers, mostly hunters, experienced men of the forest, sharp shooters, these men were right at home in the Canadian and American wilderness. Those chasseurs were engaged in most battles and skirmishes of the revolution, wherever there was some action, there were Chasseurs involved. They were also much better paid than regular soldiers.

When the Northern army under the command of General Burgoyne in the summer of 1777 marched down along Lake Champlain towards Albany, and had to surrender at Saratoga in October of 1777, because they were surrounded and cut off from Canada by a superior number of rebels, Canada itself was in great danger of being attacked again by the Americans. At that time the Chasseurs, or how they were called, the “Green Yeagers”, were assembled in Germany and hastily brought over to form a first line of defense, together with some provincial fighting units like the Butler’s Rangers in Niagara.

These Chasseurs from Hesse-Hanau and from Brunswick were stationed in the Quebec area along the St.Lawrence River, and at places like Carleton Island near Kingston, and also at the Ile-aux-Naux in the Richelieu River. One Hanau Chasseur unit even took part in the expedition against Fort Stanwix in 1777 and the Battle of Oriskany which resulted in the defeat of a strong rebel force and the death of their leader General Nicholas Herkimer. However, they did not succeed in taking Fort Stanwix and had to return home to Quebec. The Americans, being well aware of the presence of those tough fighting units, did not attempt any more attacks against Canada itself for the rest of the war. This is in my humble opinion one of the reasons why we still have an independent Canada today. At the peace in 1783, when all regular German troops were shipped back to Germany, quite a few of the regulars asked to be permitted to stay in Canada, some of them when permission was not granted, deserted from their units and took shelter within the Canadian population.

The chasseurs wanting to stay in Canada did not have those problems, most of them did get a discharge in Canada and settled down. They were volunteers, they would have been discharged in Germany anyway, and with giving them the discharge already here in Canada, saved the transportation back to the old country. One has to realize the true proportions of this influx of new German blood into the French-Canadian population. In the year 1783 there were appr. 60-70 000 Canadians of French origins living in the Province of Quebec. After the peace, of the roughly 2,500 Hessians who remainded in Canada, close to 2,000 of them stayed in Quebec, scattered all over the country side along both shores of the St.Lawrence River.

They married French-Canadian girls, raised big families, worked as farmers, bakers, shoemakers, blacksmiths, doctors, tavernkeepers, served in the local militia’s, became lawyers, musicians, physicians, and surveyors, in other words, these former soldiers contributed very much to the well being of the Quebecers and to their culture. However, sad to say, one thing they did not do, they did not teach their children to speak German. In most cases their German names were changed to sound French, Johann became Jean, Jacob became Jacques, but it was even more drastic with last names. A Beyer became Payeur, a Pfeiffer became Fiffre, or a Teffner ended up as Theveneur, a Schlossmacher as Shlousmakre, a Schultz as Choults, and so on. In one case Ebacher became Baker, in another they eliminated the last name of Adam Raubenheimer, a Hesse-Hanau Chasseur, completely, and the family is known today as “Les Adams”. Fact is, within a short period of time, perhaps within 30 years hardly a trace of this German invasion could be detected, these men were absorbed by the French-Canadian culture, sucked up like spilled milk by a giant sponge.

Only in the old church records of the Quebec parishes does one find the names, and as one searches through these records, one can find the signatures of those men in German handwriting sticking out like a giant (sore) thump, here signed: Johann Daniel Doerge”, or Fritz Gerner”. (Both these men had served with the Brunswick troops and were properly discharged in 1783) Both of them married and settled in Sorel.

End of this short story

After you read this, one realizes the difficulties encountered in tracking elusive ancestors.

John Merz

Fascinating stuff isn’t?

very interesting

I sent it to Steve last week so he can look at it and reflect on his Myers lineage.

To be continued…?

Reflecting this Sunday morning.

SunMorning

Reflecting on how someone must be overwhelmed when he finds all the information about his ancestors like Steve Myers.

I don’t annoy people with genealogy and I don’t sell anything like phoney coats-of arms.

phony coats of arms

The proof of the pudding…

I sent a reply to this post I found last week on Genealogy.com. This message was dated November 17, 2009.

Hello, I am looking for any information on ancestors of Arthur Joseph Myers, b. Nov. 1, 1883 in Waterbury, VT. I believe the family originally came from Bordeaux, France via Quebec, Canada. The surname was changed when they entered the US; the original name may have been ‘LeMaires’ or some variation thereof. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Steve

I don’t do this often, but this time I could not resist the temptation since Steve posted this request in 2009, and the Arthur Joseph Myers he was looking for seemed to be a perfect match for Arthur J. Myers the son of Julian Myers and Agnes Lagasse.

Agnes Lagasse

I wrote this…

Still looking for Arthur J Myers son of Julian Myers and Agnes Lagasse?

https://steanne.wordpress.com/2013/10/19/agnes-lagaser/

Write to me.

Pierre

Strangely enough I started this blog in September 2009.

Steve replied!

So I invited him to visit my Ancestry family tree to have a look.

Everything about his ancestor Arthur J. Myers is there.

Agnes Lagasse file

Pretty overwhelming stuff even for someone like me when I look back at it.

I can’t believe I have been researching all these people related to my grandfather Leo of whom I knew very little about until someone sent me this document. That document jump started all that I have been writing on this blog.

acte de deces leo lagace senior

This document was just the tip of the iceberg in my quest for other people’s ancestors.

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Some iceberg!

When I dig, I dig deep, and I have not stopped since.

So what’s all this excitement about a man called Arthur Joseph Myers?

Arthur Joseph Myers

Every clue leads to another… and another…

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Even to San Diego in the 1920s.

To be continued…?

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Of course, if Steve teams up with the A-Team like Sandy, Joe, Fran, Robin, Ed, and Frank did,… and of course Donna and a host of all other people who have been teaming with me since 2009.

The A-Team