Who’s that girl…? Season 1, Episode 3 – Elizabeth Fagan

Binging on Netflix can become a big problem. Binging on Our Ancestors can become a bigger problem. That’s why I will be slowing down posting on Our Ancestors unless Dennis keeps on scanning old post cards.

Front Fête-Dieu 1914 Quebec, Canada

Fête-DIeu 1914 Quebec, Canada

“Fête Dieu” Parade,
Quebec, Canada June 1914.


So we  are back with my alter ego Hercule Poirot.

Hercule Poirot

He will be lending a helping hand with this mysterious mezmerizing post card.

An old photo always wants to talk to us if we know how to listen. In this instance it’s much easier…

Here’s the transcription of the back of the post card once more…

Dear girls

At home safe and had a fun time thanks to all of you girls. I have to wait until I find out each of your names before I can write to you personally. Your brother came as far as Plainville with us girls. If there is a dance in Compounce Saturday night please ask Harvey to go so we can have a dance with him. Say girls, Did I spell your name right well never mind the next time I will spell it correct. Hoping to hear from you again. I remain Yours

P.S. Please write and give me some of the girls names. I can’t rememb er any of them only yours.

XX

Elizabeth Fagan 249 High Street


This post card was so interesting that I just had to know who was this Elizabeth Fagan who seemed to have such an interest on Harvey Lagassy.

Well, well mes amis I am here again to help with this other “mystère” about two “mystérieuses” beautiful young “demoiselles” in Connecticut… I will let my little brain cells warm up a little and curl up my moustache.

First the mysterious lady with an X… 

She has to be Elizabeth Fagan’s shop mate who wants to come to the dance next Saturday. Miss Lagassy had no reason to write an X nor Elizabeth. Miss Lagassy would have known who was Elizabeth on that post card. So we have two of Elizabeth’s shop mates and the one with an X wants to come to the dance. 

This is the second clue we have

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As you can see the “carte postale” was stamped June 1, 1911 at 9 AM which was a Tuesday morning. This means the post card was put in the mailbox before Elizabeth Fagan went to work on Monday the post office being closed on Sundays. I figure “la danse” in Lake Compounce was on the previous “samedi” since Elizabeth seemed quite excited to go to the next dance with the handsome Harvey Lagassy, Miss Lagassy’s brother…

This is once again the handsome Harvey on a picture taken in 1912 that Pierre wrote about before…

We just can make out the name of the town.

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The post card was mailed in Kensington, Connecticut. I had to search on Google Maps on my Samsung “tablette” to find it.

In 1911 Kensington was part of Berlin, Connecticut. There was very little information on the Internet so I had to search the U.S. censuses for someone whose name was Elizabeth Fagan living in Kensington who could have been old enough to go to a dance at Compounce Lake on Saturday May 29, 1911, and then after the dance being accompanied by Harvey as far as Plainville…

I wonder if she gave Harvey a little thank you kiss in Plainville…

But I digress.

I found one girl in the U.S. 1900 census whose name was Elizabeth I. Fagan born in 1893. She would have been 18 in 1911 and thus being able to go to a dance.

Elizabeth Fagan 1900 Kensington Society Berlin Township

Elizabeth Fagan 1900 Kensington Society Berlin Township (2)

Elizabeth Fagan was the daughter of Thomas Fagan who was an ice dealer. Thomas Fagan had married Mary Ann “Minnie” O’Donnell. Elizabeth had several siblings.

Catherine V Fagan 1885–
John Lawrence Fagan 1886–
Josephine L Fagan 1887–1973
Christopher Fagan 1889–
Mary A Fagan 1899–
Agnes W Fagan 1903–
Grace S Fagan 1906–1980
Thomas F Fagan 1909–

But again I digress…

So until next Monday when we pay a little visit to the Fagan family in Kensington, Connecticut on a 1910 U.S. census page.

Who’s that girl…? Season 1, Episode 1 – Desperately seeking people…

One more old photo shared by Dennis Lagasse IV…

There is handwriting on the front…

The other girl
on here is my
shop mate. She is
coming over to the
dance.

There is more handwriting on the back!

Transcription

Dear girls

At home safe and had a fun time thanks to all of you girls. I have to wait until I find out each of your names before I can write to you personally. Your brother came as far as Plainville with us girls. If there is a dance in Compounce Saturday night please ask Harvey to go so we can have a dance with him. Say girls, Did I spell your name right well never mind the next time I will spell it correct. Hoping to hear from you again. I remain Yours

P.S. Please write and give me some of the girls names. I can’t remember any of them only yours.

XX

Elizabeth Fagan 249 High Street


This is so exciting isn’t?

And I know now how post cards were made!

I must find out who was this Elizabeth Fagan and I have asked my alter ego to step in…

Well mes amis, this will be most intéressant…

To be continued…

Written 10 years ago – Maybe we could be wrong…

Note

When I started looking for my grandfather’s brothers and sisters back in 2007 I was mostly using census information I could find on Family Search and Automated Genealogy. I was desperately seeking Leo…the grandfather I can’t remember ever spoke to me and whose lifestory was only a few old photos of a man on photos taken on wedding days.

March 20, 1948

This post below was written on September 11, 2010…and it’s worth reading slowly, and then it’s worth reading the epilogue.


William Lagasse was my grandfather’s nephew. I don’t believe Léo Lagacé Senior ever met William, but maybe he did. I don’t believe he ever knew what happen to William either, but then maybe he did.

I never knew anything about William Lagasse. He was just a name in my genealogy data bank. William Lagasse was the son of Antoine Lagacé (Anthony Lagasse) and Délia Bertrand. This is who I believe are Antoine and Délia.

This photo was sent to me by Sandy, my not so distant cousin anymore in the United States. Sandy does not know who they are, but we think it could be them.

Maybe we could be wrong although the man on the above photo looks a lot like a Lagacé (Lagasse).

On the left is Stanislas Lagasse born in 1842 and on the right is his son Stanislas born in 1864

Antoine was Stanislas’ first son and he was born in 1863. William is Antoine’s son and was born in 1888 the same year his uncle Léo Lagacé Senior was born. I am sure my great-grandfather Stanislas learned what happened to his grandson William in 1918. I am sure he did because he lived till 1927. If you want to know what happened to William, click here I have something to share with you.

If you are somewhat related to William Lagasse or his father Anthony Lagasse, please write me a comment below and I will get in touch.


Epilogue

Now we are back to March 1st, 2020…

These next photos are post cards shared by Dennis Lagasse IV this week. They are from someone whose initials are W J L whom I think is William Joseph Lagasse the son of Antoine Lagacé and Délia Bertrand. 

Anthony remarried after Délia died in December 23, 1918. Délia never knew his son was killed in WW I only that he was missing in action like his brother Joseph. Anthony married Rose-Alba Chagnon on June 16, 1919 in St. Hyacinthe. His witness was… my grandfather Léo.

 

Well I was wrong…

As an amateur genealogist it does not bother me when I am wrong.

It did not take me 10 years to figure out who this beautiful young lady was after all.

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This beautiful young woman was posing on this photo shared by my distant cousin Dennis this week. She is next to my “newly found young” grandfather Leo with his wife Maria Landry in front of him.

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Top row (L-R) Adéla L’Héraut is the wife of Philippe Lord; Léo Lagacé is my grandfather who had married Maria Landry in 1912; Cléophas Deslanges is a widower who later would marry Marguerite Lagacé in 1919; Philippe Lord husband of Adéla L’Hérault married in 1914; Éva Côté sister of Éméline Côté, Adélard Lagacé, brother of Léo, he was married to Éméline Côté.

Sitting: Maria Landry wife of Léo; Yvonne Lagacé, daughter of Adélard and Éméline; Marguerite Lagacé is the sister of Léo and Adélard; in front of Marguerite is Laurette Lagacé daughter of Adélard and Éméline; next her sister Annette Lagacé; Éméline Côté wife of Adélard Lagacé

I still have to figure exactly the date when this photo was taken and by whom. The key to finding her was this old photo also shared by Dennis.

My grandfather is on the left and his cousin Philippe Lord is on the right. I would guess this post card photo was taken around 1908. Both men look younger than the 1916 photo. Léo Lagacé would marry Maria Landry in 1912 and Philippe Lord would married Adéla L’Hérault in 1914. It would be normal that they bought their wives to visit Marguerite Lagacé.

Philippe was the oldest child of Philippe Lord and Marguerite Lagacé. Philippe’s father died in 1905 the same year his younger brother Lucien was born. Lucien is the boy in front of his mother.

Albert Lord is on the right and Aldéi Lord is on the left. We are in St-Hyacinthe. Marguerite looks younger. Lucien looks to be around 8 years-old. I would date this photo around 1913 three years before the group photo.

I will try to find descendants for these people (except my grandfather’s of course) and write about their ancestors on Our Ancestors. That’s the least I can do to keep this blog active.

There is one question remaining though. Who took this picture?

I have a theory… François-Xavier Frégeau, Éva Côté’s husband, took it.

“We have enough fake news going around Mary.” (pun intended)

I won’t even try to identify this beautiful young lady. I am sure we will find out who she is 10 years from now.

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This beautiful young woman is featured on this photo shared by my distant cousin Dennis this week. She is next to my “new found young” grandfather Leo with his wife Maria Landry in front of him.

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I told Dennis I could kiss him when I saw all the pictures he had. There were also planes!

This is no fake news!

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Dennis and I share the same ancestor. He’s this old man.

Dennis Lagasse II

This old man was younger back in 1895 seen here with little Harvey and Marie the children of Dennis Lagasse III and Amanda Ménard.

Dennis Lagasse II (1842-1927)

The above is not the original because I spruced it up a little as a tribute to a family man.

Dennis, who likes to call himself Dennis IV, has been sharing his father’s old pictures his father had kept all the years in cigar boxes and other boxes. Without these old pictures I would not be writing Our Ancestors and you won’t be reading it.

Reading it is what it’s all about and also being able to reunite with lost ancestors like Mary’s ancestors.

Flavie and Myra Alexandre

So how do you read Our Ancestors?

Like an attempt to relive the past of lost ancestors and connecting the dots. This is another photo Dennis sent last night working “late evening oil”

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Who do you think is the woman?

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I will give you a hint…

montage Marguerite Lagacé

 

 

Brick walls… Nazaire Perron Take 2

Something quite unexpected happened yesterday after I wrote my last post about brick walls

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No Nazaire Perron is not on this photo.

Remember what I was writing yesterday?

Sometimes we get them. In fact almost all the time when looking for lost ancestors. My first brick wall was in 2007 while searching for my paternal grandfather. I knew almost nothing except he once lived in Connecticut. I had a few photos…

Well lo and behold loyal readers…!

Yesterday my cousin Dennis Lagasse IV shared newly found old photos of my paternal grandfather who I can vividly remember never spoke to me in my entire life.

He should have…

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On this group photo I quickly identified where he was. My grandfather is on the left behind the woman smiling at us.

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Then I quickly identified his brother Adélard who is on the right with his wife Éméline in front. Then came Maria Landry, my grandfather’s first wife he married in 1912. She is just in front of him.

I was able to date this photo since I knew who were the three children. They were Laurette, Annette and Yvonne Lagacé the daughters of Éméline Côté and Adélard Lagasse.

We see them on this photo I had that was taken in the 1950s.

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Léo and Adélard came back to St-Hyacinthe in 1908 probably after their mother Henriette Alexandre had died in 1907.

Little Yvonne who was born in March 1911 is in front of Maria Landry. She looks to be about 4 or 5 years-old. So I am dating this photo around the summer of 1916.

The woman in the center is most probably my grandaunt Marguerite Lagacé, my grandfather’s sister who I am seeing for the first time. Marguerite was not a brick wall since I already knew a lot about her. She was first married to Philippe Lord who died in 1905. I think the man behind her must be Cléophas Deslandes whom she will marry in 1919. Cléophas Deslandes was a two-time widower first married to Malvina Choinière and then to Émérence Houle with whom he had many children. Émérence died in March 1916.

But I digress…

As for Marguerite she had four sons born between 1888 and 1905. His eldest son Philippe Junior could be on this photo with his wife Adéla L’Hérault whom she married in 1914 or these two could be siblings of Éméline Côté.

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Brick walls… Nazaire Perron

Sometimes we get them. In fact almost all the time when looking for lost ancestors. My first brick wall was in 2007 while searching for my paternal grandfather. I knew almost nothing except he once lived in Connecticut. I had a few photos…

My grandfather with my father and my uncle Marcel in a wheelchair.

My grandfather mortuary card…

I knew of course he was born in 1888, but I had no idea where he was born. I knew he was married to my grandmother Juliette Metayer of course, but I could not find any marriage act.

Little did I know back in 2007 that Léo and Juliette were never married!

That brick wall crumpled when someone helped me by sending this death certificate.

I had his mother’s name… H. Alexandre.

With this information I could find a marriage certificate in a genealogy database, but with a different bride’s name.

Maria Landry…!

I will spare you all the details, but Maria’s brother eventually kicked my grandfather out of St-Hyacinthe in the 1920s. The Landry family had never heard of my grandfather again until his grandson (that’s me) visited Maria’s nephew in 2009.

Although Antonio Landry never met my grandfather, he told me all about my grandfather’s antics he had heard from his family.

Antonio Landry
It is then I started writing about my grandfather on this blog. I wanted to find lost relatives and maybe lend a helping hand.

Hi Pierre
I am currently researching the Perron Family from Chicopee, Massachusetts. I have reached a brick wall with Nazaire Perron married to Celeste Demers. You have them in your tree but with no parents. Do you know any more about them?

Thanks

Which brings me to brick walls, Nazaire Perron, and why I have him in my family tree on Ancestry even if he is only the father-in-law of a first cousin twice removed.

To be continued…

Geraldine Sorel – Redux II

Our Ancestors is about preserving the past for future generations.

Laura just wrote a comment about Geraldine Sorel. Geraldine is her grandmother. 

Hello, I am Geraldine’s granddaughter. I am interested in who might be doing this research.

In 2015 I had written once more about Geraldine Sorel in a post that was first written in 2013.

Laura’s comment rekindled my interest about Geraldine Sorel and how I came about to write about her.

This is the original post with the sequel written after.

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Geraldine seems be have been the only child of Ernest Sorel (Sorell) and Amelia Alexandre (Alexander).

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I don’t have a picture of Geraldine, but I know there are some out there. I have found the family in the 1940 U.S. Census now available online. Geraldine is 16.

1940 Ernest Sorel

There is a remote chance I will find some descendants of Amelia and Ernest. On April 3, 1940, Ernest Sorel (Earnest Sorel) was living at 211 Lafayette Street in New Britain, Hartford, Connecticut. He was an assistant foreman in a hardware factory. Ernest was born in Cambridge, Ontario, on August 2, 1891.

I know all about Ernest Sorel’s ancestors.

This information is now laying dormant…

One day it will blossom and make someone really happy.

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The sequel written in 2015…

I am almost sure this is Caroline Ménard.

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On this picture, the caption is wrong.

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It doesn’t matter anymore. There were some wrong captions in the collection of old pictures Robin scanned in 2011, but it doesn’t matter anymore if we are almost sure this is Caroline Ménard.

wpid-33fe2b6d-acf6-47b0-aea2-93150966943d.jpgThe wife of Jean-Baptiste Alexandre II, the son of my great-grandaunt Philomene Lagasse.

1913 Philomene Lagasse

Doesn’t matter a bit…if some captions were wrong.

Mary was the sister of Agnes Alexandre Bleau

The Hotte Family

I have not written about the Hotte family on Our Ancestors. I have only written on Nos ancêtres, the French version of Our Ancestors.

It does not help much unless you can read French.

In my search for an old college friend’s ancestors I had stumbled upon the strange case of a woman who was only known by her first name.

She was Geneviève who married Joseph Tassé on February 17, 1817. They had a girl Élisabeth Tassé born on November 14, 1817, and a son Joseph born on October 8, 1819. Joseph died 20 days later. His mother Geneviève died the week before on October 14. Élisabeth’s father would remarried on November 13, 1820 with Marguerite Valiquette. Marguerite would most probably have adopted little Élisabeth, but that I don’t know.

What I know is that Élisabeth would marry Zéphirin Hotte dit Lafeuillade on January 28, 1834 in St-Martin-de-Laval, Île-Jésus, in the province of Québec. Zéphirin and Élisabeth had seven children.

At least that’s what I found.

Zéphirin Hotte 1835–1903 (my friend’s maternal great-grandfather)
 
Rose-de-Lima Hotte 1836–1910
  
Césaire Hotte 1837–1918
  
Gédéon Hotte 1844–1920
  
Salomé Hotte 1848–
 
Marie Hotte dit Lafeuillade 1851–1851
 
Alphonse Hotte 1853–1915

Some children later in life emigrated to the United States. This is why I will write about the Hotte family on Our Ancestors in 2020 starting with Césaire Hotte and a search on Find A Grave if someone writes a comment.

 

Sunday Night – Looking for Jeremiah Provost?

A comment just in…

We are trying to locate family from Quebec, we found a picture of Jeremiah Provost taken at the shop of Madame Gagne but there is no date on the picture , my husband has no direct family left, his grandfather was Ernest Provost and most of the family moved to Massachusetts. It would be nice to find our more information on his family and if and still survive….

There is one clue here on Wikipedia…

Madame Gagné was a photographer who worked between 1886 and 1891 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. She and her husband, Édouard C. Gagné (also a photographer) had a total of three studios over time.[1][2][3] At least one of her prints can be found at Montreal’s McCord Museum.[4]

Madame Gagné reportedly had a rapport with the new Chinese immigrants to Montreal, and often made portraits of them and their families.[4] Since most photographers of the time catered to more well-to-do clients, this was an unusual custom.[1]

Her photography studio was located at 211 Saint Laurent Boulevard, which is in the heart of today’s Old Montreal.

What we need to see is the photo and then move from there.