Joseph Lagassé – Epilogue Part 2

This is post 1601… I could have never imagined that I would have written that many posts on Our Ancestors back in September 2009. I have eased up a bit in 2021.

In 2016 I did not know Joseph Lagassé had died on January 17, 1947. He was 99 years-old.

Almost ten years ago this is what I had written on this blog…  


This story really started 1027 posts ago with the story of Doris who wanted to visit Ste-Anne-des-Plaines in Quebec where her ancestors once had lived.


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I acted as a guide. After her two-day visit, she wanted me to translate what I had written in French on my blog Nos ancêtres so her distant relatives she had in Louisiana could  read it.

Our Ancestors grew from there. I just continued with stories about my genealogical research in the hope of making contact with distant relatives living  in the United States since my great-grandfather Stanislas Lagacé emigrated there in 1889.

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Stanislas Lagacé with two grandchildren

In 2009 or 2010, I knew Joseph Lagassé was my great-grandfather’s brother, but he was just a name on a census page.

1852 Census

Then I found his baptismal act.

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20 August, 1848

Where he had lived in 1861…

1861 Census

In 1871…

1871 Census

Who he had married in 1878…

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Where he had lived with Edwina in 1900…

1900 Census

with their only child, their son Robert on the next page…

1900 Census Robert Lagasse

Where the couple had lived in 1940…

1940 Census

In 1942…

1942 Directory

Source Ancestry

When they died…

headstone

source Find a Grave

Where they rest in peace…

Forestville Cemetery

source Find a Grave

That was what little I knew about my second great-uncle Joseph until last Friday when Joe Palladino wrote a comment on the blog, and wanted to upload old pictures.

Since Joe couldn’t, I wrote him a personal  message…

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Joseph Miller Lagasse?

I believe this is young Joseph Lagassé in 1869 when he reached 21. I think  his wife Edwina Newcity is probably one of these three women, probably she is the one in the back since Edwina was the youngest daughter of Edward Villeneuve and Scholastique Aveline dit St. Jules.

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We will probably never know for sure if Edwina Newcity is on that picture because my second theory is that it could be Joseph Lagassé’s sisters Elmire, Agnes and Marie-Anne on that picture.

The search goes on and on…

Joseph Lagassé – Epilogue

Updated 25 July 2021

This is post 1588…

In 2016 I did not know Joseph Lagassé had died on January 17, 1947. He was 99 years-old.

Five years ago this is what I had written on this blog…  


This story really started 1014 posts ago with the story of Doris who wanted to visit Ste-Anne-des-Plaines in Quebec where her ancestors once had lived.


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I acted as a guide. After her two-day visit, she wanted me to translate what I had written in French on my blog Nos ancêtres so the distant relatives she had in Louisiana could  read it.

Our Ancestors grew from there. I just continued with stories about my genealogical research in the hope of making contact with distant relatives living  in the United States since my great-grandfather Stanislas Lagacé emigrated there in 1889.

picture from Dennis 2

Stanislas Lagacé with two grandchildren

In 2009 or 2010, I knew Joseph Lagassé was my great-grandfather’s brother, but he was just a name on a census page.

1852 Census

Then I found his baptismal act.

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20 August, 1848

Where he had lived in 1861…

1861 Census

In 1871…

1871 Census

Who he had married in 1878…

marriage-certificate.jpg.jpeg

Where he had lived with Edwina in 1900…

1900 Census

with their only child, their son Robert on the next page…

1900 Census Robert Lagasse

Where the couple had lived in 1940…

1940 Census

In 1942…

1942 Directory

Source Ancestry

When they died…

headstone

source Find a Grave

Where they rest in peace…

Forestville Cemetery

source Find a Grave

That was what little I knew about my second great-uncle Joseph until last Friday when Joe Palladino wrote a comment on the blog, and wanted to upload old pictures.

Since Joe couldn’t, I wrote him a personal  message…

2016-01-15-14.14.05.jpg.jpeg

Joseph Miller Lagasse?

I believe this is young Joseph Lagassé in 1869 when he reached 21. I think  his wife Edwina Newcity is probably one of these three women, probably she is the one in the back since Edwina was the youngest daughter of Edward Villeneuve and Scholastique Aveline dit St. Jules.

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We will probably never know for sure if Edwina Newcity is on that picture because my second theory is that it could be Joseph Lagassé’s sisters Elmire, Agnes and Marie-Anne on that picture.

Now if we could only find about that fishing trip Robert’s family knows nothing about…

Robert Miller fishing - Michigan 10 October 1954

To be continued with what Joe Palladino has shared about his ancestors since 2017 and never told you.

To paraphrase a baseball movie: If you write it, they will come.

I wrote this seven years ago. Well I think it was seven years ago. I will have to check. I have learned a lot since 2007 when I got addicted to genealogy. I never meant to go on a mission to find lost ancestors, but it happened anyway.

I shall return with this beautiful group photo taken in April or May 1916. Now this is what I had written on Boxing Day…


Boxing Day at last!

I hope you have had a wonderful Christmas like the Arther Myers’ family back in the 50s.

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A few years ago I was contacted by a descendant of the Myers family. Jason had shared many dozens of old photos of Arther Myers and Rosealina Larose’s family.

These happy people will forever live in our hearts. This is why I have been writing so much about people even if I am not closely related to them.

A reader once commented…

If you write it, they will come.

I could not have said it better. These pictures were taken on Christmas Eve or on Christmas Day. Just look at the Christmas tree on the right of Rosealina.

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Rosealina is wearing the same dress and Arther has the same tie on this picture.

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Merry Christmas!

I wonder which Christmas it was? Maybe there was a caption at the back.

Here it’s easier to date this picture.

Arther and Rose 1

50 years after

Arther and Rosealina married on April 22, 1907, so this picture was taken on April 22, 1957, give or take a few days.

Here’s a picture where Rosealina is a little more serious and looks a little younger.

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Arther looks like the quiet type. Old pictures talk a lot you know. This is why they are so important to keep them. They remind us of people we loved so much when they are not around anymore.

Arther died on August 4th, 1959. Rosealina rejoined him on June 21, 1969. I am sure they had a happy life and had happy beautiful children.

This is what I found.

    Joseph Arther Hormidas Myers 1908-1986
    Alice Sophrinie Myers 1910-1999
    Paul A. Myers 1912-1979
    Irene Myers 1916-1999
    Beatrice Rose Myers 1919-2010
    Ernest Edward Myers 1921-1983
    Agnes B. Myers  1925-

Some are seen on this picture taken on the same Christmas day. Same tie, same dress, same happy people.

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Merry Christmas everyone!

Célestine Sauvé

I don’t have a photo to show you of Célestine Sauvé. I wish I had one.

Célestine Sauvé was a devout person. That’s what Lucie told me in an email she sent after she first made contact by writing a comment on Our Ancestors about a closed case.

Célestine Sauvé and her children had built a shrine.

This is what Lucie wrote me.

Célestine and her children built a shrine to the Virgin Mary and it still stands today. They were an extremely devout family and probably prayed for a better life for all of them. That was not to be. On February 18, 1921, Ovide Neveu passed away (he was only 24!), leaving the elderly mother, two sons and two daughters to keep the farm going. Dominique was the only one to marry and naturally he had to fend for his own family. Célestine sold the big farm and purchased a much smaller one, 50 acres, one that she could handle with her son Edmond and daughters Fabiana and Antonia.

The shrine must have been quite something back then. It is in ill repair now as the attached picture shows; you probably can’t make it out, but it says Notre-Dame de Caledonia Springs at the top. People stopped by frequently, including some who prayed for their sick family members to recover from various ailments. Some expressed an urgent need for respite, so Célestine took their sick ones in. She and her daughters cared for them, fed then nutritious food fresh from their garden, and perhaps even made them drink the various types of water from the springs. I am quite sure they prayed a lot. So fresh air, calm surroundings and good care may well have had a positive effect on some of those sick people. The rumors about some recoveries started; the folks around here claimed miracles were occurring on Ritchance Road… I think not.

Célestine rests in peace with her husband and three of her children: Ovide, Edmond and Antonia.

Zotique Neveu, Célestine’s husband, was related to the Neveu family who emigrated to the United States. Lucie is now in the process of finding more about them, so in a sense, a case is never closed on Our Ancestors.

 

Eva’s parents

This is Eva who is another first cousin of Alyce.

Steve reached out for me two weeks ago on Ancestry as it seemed we had some common ancestors. Our common ancestor is Antoine Mignier dit Lagacé seen on Eva’s family tree on the extreme right.

Eva Lagasse's tree

I know all about my great-great-great-grandfather Antoine Mignier dit Lagacé born on September 22, 1797 in Kamouraska, Kamouraska county, in Québec, Canada. He was baptised the same day under conditions. This meant people were not sure he would survive.

It took me 12 years to find one of Eva’s descendants and it was worth the wait.

These are Eva’s parents. 

Arthur Lagacé and Mary Ann Mills

On the left is Arthur Joseph Lagacé and on the right is his wife Mary Ann Mills. What struck me is the proud and calm look of Arthur, and the gentle look of Mary Ann.

Arthur was born on March 20, 1874 and baptised two days later.

Here is a list of his siblings that I had found a long, long time ago. 

Arthur's siblings

I wrote a lot about Frobe Lagasse and Marie Alice Emeline Lagasse on Our Ancestors.

A few months ago I found this on Ancestry. It was a photo of Arthur’s father with Arthur’s uncles. I got all excited and just had to write about who was who.

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This is a close-up view of Pierre-Adolphe Lagasse, Arthur’s father.

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On September 22, 2010 this is what Pierre-Adolphe looked like on my Ancestry family tree.

Adolphe Lagasse

Then on August 23, 2016 a descendant of Pierre-Adolphe shared this.

Adolphe Pierre Lagassé

Sometimes I’m going to make fun of the fact that some people wonder if they’re distant cousins of Emeril Lagasse…

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It’s quite normal to look for famous people in our extended family and you shouldn’t be offended by my sense of humor.

On Our Ancestors everyone is famous.

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I don’t have a photo of Mélanie Berthiaume, Arthur’s mother. I wish I had one to show you. Maybe in 10 years from now someone will share some old pictures of people he or she has and have no idea who they are.

Until then, please stay safe.

Stalking Emeril?

I don’t know if Emeril Lagasse is famous enough to have people stalking him.

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I know I have never been in such a predicament even though I have been writing about our ancestors since 2009. I figured cooking is more important than genealogy unless you stumble upon this blog and start to get all excited about old pictures you once thought putting in the garbage…

So what about Emeril Lagasse and how are you related to him? You will have to come back later because I am busy as a bee right now with Steve who has been sharing all he knows about his ancestors…

Next time on Our Ancestors, all you wanted to know about Eva Lagasse, but you did not know who to ask for help.

Hello Pierre! My name is Steve. I wanted to reach out as it seems we have some common ancestors and I saw that you are looking to find information on descendants in the United States.

Eva Lagasse's tree

Who’s that girl…? Season 1, Episode 3 – Elizabeth Fagan

Binging on Netflix can become a big problem. Binging on Our Ancestors can become a bigger problem. That’s why I will be slowing down posting on Our Ancestors unless Dennis keeps on scanning old post cards.

Front Fête-Dieu 1914 Quebec, Canada

Fête-DIeu 1914 Quebec, Canada

“Fête Dieu” Parade,
Quebec, Canada June 1914.


So we  are back with my alter ego Hercule Poirot.

Hercule Poirot

He will be lending a helping hand with this mysterious mezmerizing post card.

An old photo always wants to talk to us if we know how to listen. In this instance it’s much easier…

Here’s the transcription of the back of the post card once more…

Dear girls

At home safe and had a fun time thanks to all of you girls. I have to wait until I find out each of your names before I can write to you personally. Your brother came as far as Plainville with us girls. If there is a dance in Compounce Saturday night please ask Harvey to go so we can have a dance with him. Say girls, Did I spell your name right well never mind the next time I will spell it correct. Hoping to hear from you again. I remain Yours

P.S. Please write and give me some of the girls names. I can’t rememb er any of them only yours.

XX

Elizabeth Fagan 249 High Street


This post card was so interesting that I just had to know who was this Elizabeth Fagan who seemed to have such an interest on Harvey Lagassy.

Well, well mes amis I am here again to help with this other “mystère” about two “mystérieuses” beautiful young “demoiselles” in Connecticut… I will let my little brain cells warm up a little and curl up my moustache.

First the mysterious lady with an X… 

She has to be Elizabeth Fagan’s shop mate who wants to come to the dance next Saturday. Miss Lagassy had no reason to write an X nor Elizabeth. Miss Lagassy would have known who was Elizabeth on that post card. So we have two of Elizabeth’s shop mates and the one with an X wants to come to the dance. 

This is the second clue we have

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As you can see the “carte postale” was stamped June 1, 1911 at 9 AM which was a Tuesday morning. This means the post card was put in the mailbox before Elizabeth Fagan went to work on Monday the post office being closed on Sundays. I figure “la danse” in Lake Compounce was on the previous “samedi” since Elizabeth seemed quite excited to go to the next dance with the handsome Harvey Lagassy, Miss Lagassy’s brother…

This is once again the handsome Harvey on a picture taken in 1912 that Pierre wrote about before…

We just can make out the name of the town.

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The post card was mailed in Kensington, Connecticut. I had to search on Google Maps on my Samsung “tablette” to find it.

In 1911 Kensington was part of Berlin, Connecticut. There was very little information on the Internet so I had to search the U.S. censuses for someone whose name was Elizabeth Fagan living in Kensington who could have been old enough to go to a dance at Compounce Lake on Saturday May 29, 1911, and then after the dance being accompanied by Harvey as far as Plainville…

I wonder if she gave Harvey a little thank you kiss in Plainville…

But I digress.

I found one girl in the U.S. 1900 census whose name was Elizabeth I. Fagan born in 1893. She would have been 18 in 1911 and thus being able to go to a dance.

Elizabeth Fagan 1900 Kensington Society Berlin Township

Elizabeth Fagan 1900 Kensington Society Berlin Township (2)

Elizabeth Fagan was the daughter of Thomas Fagan who was an ice dealer. Thomas Fagan had married Mary Ann “Minnie” O’Donnell. Elizabeth had several siblings.

Catherine V Fagan 1885–
John Lawrence Fagan 1886–
Josephine L Fagan 1887–1973
Christopher Fagan 1889–
Mary A Fagan 1899–
Agnes W Fagan 1903–
Grace S Fagan 1906–1980
Thomas F Fagan 1909–

But again I digress…

So until next Monday when we pay a little visit to the Fagan family in Kensington, Connecticut on a 1910 U.S. census page.

Who’s that girl…? Season 1, Episode 1 – Desperately seeking people…

One more old photo shared by Dennis Lagasse IV…

There is handwriting on the front…

The other girl
on here is my
shop mate. She is
coming over to the
dance.

There is more handwriting on the back!

Transcription

Dear girls

At home safe and had a fun time thanks to all of you girls. I have to wait until I find out each of your names before I can write to you personally. Your brother came as far as Plainville with us girls. If there is a dance in Compounce Saturday night please ask Harvey to go so we can have a dance with him. Say girls, Did I spell your name right well never mind the next time I will spell it correct. Hoping to hear from you again. I remain Yours

P.S. Please write and give me some of the girls names. I can’t remember any of them only yours.

XX

Elizabeth Fagan 249 High Street


This is so exciting isn’t?

And I know now how post cards were made!

I must find out who was this Elizabeth Fagan and I have asked my alter ego to step in…

Well mes amis, this will be most intéressant…

To be continued…

Written 10 years ago – Maybe we could be wrong…

Note

When I started looking for my grandfather’s brothers and sisters back in 2007 I was mostly using census information I could find on Family Search and Automated Genealogy. I was desperately seeking Leo…the grandfather I can’t remember ever spoke to me and whose lifestory was only a few old photos of a man on photos taken on wedding days.

March 20, 1948

This post below was written on September 11, 2010…and it’s worth reading slowly, and then it’s worth reading the epilogue.


William Lagasse was my grandfather’s nephew. I don’t believe Léo Lagacé Senior ever met William, but maybe he did. I don’t believe he ever knew what happen to William either, but then maybe he did.

I never knew anything about William Lagasse. He was just a name in my genealogy data bank. William Lagasse was the son of Antoine Lagacé (Anthony Lagasse) and Délia Bertrand. This is who I believe are Antoine and Délia.

This photo was sent to me by Sandy, my not so distant cousin anymore in the United States. Sandy does not know who they are, but we think it could be them.

Maybe we could be wrong although the man on the above photo looks a lot like a Lagacé (Lagasse).

On the left is Stanislas Lagasse born in 1842 and on the right is his son Stanislas born in 1864

Antoine was Stanislas’ first son and he was born in 1863. William is Antoine’s son and was born in 1888 the same year his uncle Léo Lagacé Senior was born. I am sure my great-grandfather Stanislas learned what happened to his grandson William in 1918. I am sure he did because he lived till 1927. If you want to know what happened to William, click here I have something to share with you.

If you are somewhat related to William Lagasse or his father Anthony Lagasse, please write me a comment below and I will get in touch.


Epilogue

Now we are back to March 1st, 2020…

These next photos are post cards shared by Dennis Lagasse IV this week. They are from someone whose initials are W J L whom I think is William Joseph Lagasse the son of Antoine Lagacé and Délia Bertrand. 

Anthony remarried after Délia died in December 23, 1918. Délia never knew his son was killed in WW I only that he was missing in action like his brother Joseph. Anthony married Rose-Alba Chagnon on June 16, 1919 in St. Hyacinthe. His witness was… my grandfather Léo.