I have the Lagasse lineage if interested…

It’s hard to find the maiden name of women in many documents when searching for our ancestors.

While searching for Dosithée Lagasse’s wife’s maiden name, I found this post in a forum dating from 2004.

Hello!

I’m seeking information about my great-great grandparents. Since what I have is very limited, ANY information will be greatly appreciated!

This is what I do know (family oral/written history):

Louis Albert Ephrem Turcotte was born 28 May 1871 in St.Germaine, Quebec, Canada. He married Josephine Chowinard/Chouinard (b. 1876, d. 1959) in 1892 in East Angus, Quebec. He died in 1951.

They came to the U.S. (settled in North Dakota) in 1906.

The oldest of their children was Josephine* Marie Turcotte (b. 1893, d. 1962), who was my great-grandmother. She married Dosithe Joseph Lagasse (b. 1883, d. 1940) in 1912. One of Dosithe & Josephine’s 16 children was my grandmother, Stella* Marie Lagasse (b. 1935 in Rolla, North Dakota).

Louis Turcotte/Josephine Chouinard’s children: Josephine*, August, Laura, Albert, Eugene, Herman, Antoinette (d. 6 mo.), Louis, Emil, Roderic, Stella, Ovella, Margaret, Marie, Dosithe (d. 5 mo.), Andrew, Roland, Lawrence, Bertha, and 4 still births.

Dosithe Lagasse/Josephine Turcotte’s children: Henry, Emil, Omer, Arthur, Marie, Eva, Zenon, Delia, Laura, Alice, Louis, Semon, Albert (d. infant), Stella*, Armand (d. infant), and Edward (Joe).

Thanks in advance for any insight you can share!

Dosithée Lagasse and Josephine Turcotte had 16 children! That’s a lot of André Mignier dit La Gâchette’s descendants.

I now have Dosithée Lagasse’s wife’s full name: Joséphine Turcotte.

BTW…

I left this follow-up message…

I have the Lagasse lineage if interested…

As a footnote…

Look at the enumerator’s name on that page.

Just One Clue…

Just one clue was enough to guide me to Étienne-Émilien Lagasse.

This is again the obituary that linked Noel Lagasse, son of Joseph Lagasse and Emelina Jalbert, to his Lagacé ancestors.

The clues are in red.

One of County’s First Pioneers Passes Away

E. Lagasse, Resident since 1884, Is Called Monday Morning

Emilien Lagasse, head of the third white family to come to this community, passed away at his home in Rolla early Monday morning. Mr. Lagasse, father of a large family, is survived by descendants to the fifth generation. He had been in excellent health until two years ago when his health began to fail, and the past two weeks had seen him failing rapidly. He was 89 years and seven months of age at the time of his death.

Funeral services were held in St. John Wednesday morning at 10 o’clock at the Catholic church and burial was made in the St. John Catholic cemetery. It was expected that all his daughters and sons would be present for the services. His grandchildren were the pallbearers. Father Ouellet officiated at the funeral service.

Mr. and Mrs. Lagasse and their family moved to a homestead seven miles north and one mile east of Rolla, April 23, 1884. They were one of the very first white families in this community. The homestead still belongs in the Lagasse family. Mr. Lagasse spent his life farming in this community, retiring to Rolla in October, 1925.

Native of Quebec

The deceased was born February 25, 1851, at L’Acadie, Province of Quebec. October 17, 1879, he was united in marriage to Miss Zenaide Lussier at L’Acadie. To this union eight daughters and six sons were born. Two daughters and four sons preceded their father in death. The mother died January 6, 1928. Mr. Lagasse was married a second time to Ezilda LeBlanc at Rolla, October 28, 1930, who survives her husband.

The surviving children are Joseph, Glentworth, Sask; Virginia, Mrs. Albert Jalbert and Arthemise, Mrs. Thomas Jalbert, both of Fir Mountain, Sask; Mathilda, Mrs. Hubert Lussier and Delia, Mrs. Joseph Desrocher, both of Mariapolis, Man.; Rosalie, Mrs. Burt Burley; Emilina, Mrs. August Turcotte, and Dosithe Lagasse of Rolla.

He is also survived by three sisters and one brother, Mrs. Charles Frigon, Montreal, P. Q., Mrs. Julien Benoit, Montreal, P. Q., Mrs. Leander Breault, Kankikee, Ill.; and Amedee Lagasse of Cohoes, N. Y. He has 73 grandchildren, also great grandchildren and great great grandchildren.

- Turtle Mountain Star
October 10, 1940 

All those names meant something.

In my search I had found out that  a Virginia Lagasse and an Arthemise Lagassse had married Jalberts.

Marilyn had told me about two of her Dad’s cousins: Omer and Zenon. She added they were living in North Dakota. That was the clue.

This information then led me to the 1900 U.S. Census…

Dosithée was there with “Emelin” Lagsse.

This led me to Find A Grave and to the newly available U.S. 1940 Census.

Dosithée Lagasse was there with his two sons Omer and Zenon and a bunch of other children and a whole lot of potential descendants of André Mignier dit La Gâchette.

Le 22 Sept 1853

When  Frank sent me this, he never realized he had opened up a lot of doors in his search for his ancestors.

Le 22 Sept. 1853, nous ptre sousf avons reçu le mutuel consentement de mariage entre J. Bte Archambault,  fils de Joseph Archambeault et de Marie-Anne  Hugoaud, de la Grande Ile, d’une part; et Emilie Mercier  fille d’Augustin Mercier et Marie-Anne Janvier, aussi de la Grande Ile, d’autre part, ne s’étant découvert aucun empêch nous leur avons la bénéd nuptiale en présence de Fidèle Blin et Jean Labry.

J. Quevillon ptre 

This is the same entry with the modifications I have made…

Le 22 septembre 1853, nous prêtre soussigné avons reçu le mutuel consentement de mariage entre Jean-Baptiste Archambault,  fils de Joseph Archambeault et de Marie-Anne  Hugueron, de la Grande Ile, d’une part; et Emilie Mercier  fille d’Augustin Mercier et Marie-Anne Janvier, aussi de la Grande Ile, d’autre part, ne s’étant découvert aucun empêchement nous leur avons la bénédiction nuptiale en présence de Fidèle Blain et Jean Labrie.

J. Quevillon prêtre

Now the translation Frank wanted…

The 22nd of September 1853 we priest undersigned have received the mutual marriage consent between Jean-Baptiste Archambault, son of Joseph Archambeault and Marie-Anne  Hugueron, from Grande Ile, on the one part; and Emilie Mercier  daughter of Augustin Mercier and Marie-Anne Janvier, also from Grande Ile, on the other part,  having found no objections we gave them the nuptial  blessing in the presence of Fidèle Blain and Jean Labrie.

J. Quevillon priest

We now have the names of Emilie Mercier’s parents, Augustin Mercier and Marie-Anne Janvier, thus opening the door to look for the Merciers’ ancestors.

I wonder if Frank is interested in all this?

What about the three sisters marrying on the same day?

Since some people back in the 1800s did not have access to priests, they were married by someone in authority with the promise of marrying when a priest could officiate a marriage. 

That’s the explanation I gave Fran who is still addicted to this blog.

One of County’s First Pioneers Passes Away

Remember this comment made by Marilyn…

Hi,

My name is Marilyn and I am a newbie at this. I am so happy that I found your blog. Very very interesting.

I have been trying for awhile, about a year, to get info on my Dad’s family. His name was Noel born in North Dakota in 1909 and his Dad was Joseph born in Quebec. My Gramma’s maiden name was Jalbert and I know they married in Quebec someplace. Grampa brought his big family to Saskatchewan in approx. 1911. I am having trouble finding out more info. All I have so far is the land description in Saskatchewan. If you could give me a lead to get me a little further that would be so great. My dad moved to Manitoba in 1939 and I live in Lethbridge, Alberta.

Well… I could not find her Lagasse lineage until she is the one who gave me one info that lead me to Rolla, Rolette County, North Dakota in 1940.

There was other Lagasse families in the St. John N. D. area when I was growing up.  They were Dad’s cousins.  I remember Omer Lagasse and Zenon Lagasse.

Intrigued?

Sometimes I think someone is guiding me in my search for Our Ancestors.

Click here.

We Are Not Alone

We are not alone dear…

That’s what Emilie Mercier might have said to Jean-Baptiste Archambault in St. Joseph Church in Burlington, Vermont, on their wedding day, on September 22, 1853.

Her sisters Mathilda and Rosella were also getting married…

I don’t have a lot of readers on this blog, but it does not bother me that much.

Just the pure selfish pleasure of finding about your ancestors and sometimes mine is enough.

Just the pure selfish pleasure of looking at Frank’s old tintype pictures or Ed’s unidentified photos is enough to make my day.

So when Frank sent me this e-mail with an attachment I just felt another dopamine rush.

Cher cousin Pierre,

Souhaitez-vous s’il vous plaît m’aider?

Attached is an 1853 record of my great-grandfather’s marriage to Emilie Mercier. It is in cursive French and I would like to know what it says. There are three entries; would you translate the entry for Jean-Baptiste into English. I personally went to the church (years ago) and the rectory office clerk was gracious enough to make a copy from the marriage journal.

As a side note, would you speculate as to why two of Emilie Mercier’s sisters (shown on same page) were also married on the SAME day as Emilie. What the heck: Three sisters getting married on the same day?! What a good day for the Mercier father; getting rid of three daughters, all at once.Was that common, perhaps because of a shortage of nearby priests? Was it because of some political reason (i.e., three Canadian men to marry in America for citizenship reasons — Bienvenue aux États-Unis!)? Were these (God forbid/Dieu nous en préserve!) “shotgun” weddings? Or — most likely – because we Americans are such nice people?? (Especially the French ones!)

Avec nos remerciements, 

Frank

Here is the attachment…

It’s in French.

Next time I will tell you more… and a whole lot more.

By the way, are you addicted to this blog?

You are not alone…

Footnote…

If you have not click on this link yet St. Joseph Church in Burlington, Vermont, you should. You will learn a lot about the history of St. Joseph Church in Burlington, Vermont.

Sometimes You Say Things That Come Back to Haunt You

Sometimes you say things that come back to haunt you like this comment I had left on Ancestry forum…

If you live in Massachusetts and you are looking for your roots…

I know a lot about André Mignier the ancestor of all the Lagasses, Lagacés, LaGasses namely Adolph Lagasse and Idola LaGasse who lived in Massachusetts

And the best part of it… It’s free.

Well sometimes you say things about your ancestors that come back to haunt you… 

Not all the Lagasses, Lagacés, LaGasses… are descendants of André Mignier.

There is a Lagasse family that settled in New Orleans in the 1860s.

Henri Jean Lagasse came from France with his wife Mathilde Dazet. They already had a daughter Marie born in France when they emigrated to the U.S. in 1859.

Henri Jean Lagasse and Mathilde (Mathilda) Dazet had more children…

I will have to learn not to make statements without being 100% sure.

Anyway, Mary Helen has found her late husband’s ancestors and she knows a little more about her husband’s roots in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Finally, about part of the statement I made…

And the best part of it… It’s free.

Everything I find and write about Our Ancestors is always free.

About Henri Jean Lagasse, all my articles are here.

Leave no Stone Unturned

This is why genealogy is so addictive.

You get a message like this one…

Hello,

My name is Mary Helen Lagasse, wife of the recently deceased Wilbur L. Lagasse, son of Benard Lagasse, and grandson of Henri Lagasse buried in the cemetery across from Commander’s on Washington Avenue. I had visted that site with my mother-in-law, Gertrude Dreyer Lagasse a number of times.

My husband and I visited Mannheim to look up ancestors of my mother-in-law, but had no luck. We were to visit Alsace Lorraine where a doctor friend told us there are a number of tomstones bearing the name “Lagasse.” But we never got the chance. My husband died 3 years ago. I am a published, prize-winning novelist, presently writing a historical novel. The focal point of this novel is the 1830s construction of the New Basin Canal in New Orleans. Countless numbers of Irish died there, as well as German, both of whom comprised the large number of “ditchers” that constructed the canal. I understand that my father-in-law, Benny, now deceased, son of Henri & Matilde, was 3/4th French and 1/4th German, but now that the principals are gone it is difficult, if not impossible for me to verify anything! I wish to learn about the Lagasse ancestors. If you, any of you, would be kind enough, perhaps you might point me in the right direction, or even elect to contact me personally.

I would be most grateful.

Many thanks.

Mary Helen Lagasse

And then you get a dopamine rush… and rush to your time machine!

Remember Good Old Holyoke?

Ed had sent me this message along with his 31 pictures of unidentified ancestors.

After our little discussion of the Alexander family and from what little research I have done, I believe I have some old photographs that might be from their family.  When my aunt died in 1963, her mother, my grandmother, brought back to Georgia a steamer trunk containing some of my aunt’s things.  In that trunk was a group of old photographs.  They were in my grandmother’s things in 1975 when she died and they have finally come to rest with me. 

No one was ever able to tell me anything about the pictures (I never even thought to ask Uncle George).  They are of babies, children, families, and individual men and women, all dating to the late 1800s and early 1900s. 

None have any names indicating whom the pictures are of, however some do have photographer’s marks.  There are 31 photographs and 16 have Holyoke, Massachusetts labels, 2 have Quebec labels, and 1 has a label from Bristol, Connecticut.  These are all places associated with the Alexanders.  In 1920 and 1930, Jean-Baptiste and his family were living in Bristol, CT; in 1910, they were in Holyoke, MA and prior to that, they were in Quebec.   

All of Ed’s 31 pictures did not look familiar at first glance.

Even Robin had this comment…

What a challenge! Are we up to it?

All were unidentified ancestors until Frank sent me this picture of  John Archambeault.

He is Jean-Baptiste Archambeault’s and Emilia Mercier’s son. John Archambeault married Florence Boucher. He could be the same man seen in this montage I made with one of Ed’s pictures.

I had this picture identified as family 1.

Family 1

You have to start somewhere don’t you…

Anyway, this Family 1 could be John Archambault with his wife Florence Boucher and a daughter. I know they had at least four daughters… because Frank told me.

Flora Archambault (1873)

Lillie (Lillian) Archambault (1877)

Alice Archambault (4 July 1878)

Nellie (Helen) Archambault 1884

Nellie could be the daughter on the picture.

Now if we turn our attention to Family 2.

Family 2

Could this family be also related to the Archambeault family…?

How about his one then and all other 28 pictures sent by Frank that were all unidentified ancestors?

Family 3

 I have no idea.

About John Archambeault…

I believe it’s him on these two pictures.

If this is John, then this could be John with his daughter Flora born in 1873.

I know sometimes I might be hard to follow…

I am still wondering…

I am still wondering if this is Sophie Archambeault and the man beside her is her husband Frank Lagasse (1858-1937), another descendant of Stanislas Lagacé I (1816-1900) whom we still don’t  have a picture of.

I have his dead certificate though, but that’s not enough.

Frank is the brother of Stanislas Lagacé II (Dennis Lagasse II, 1842-1927) seen here on another picture Dennis IV sent me last month.

The mustache is a dead giveaway.

There is another mustache I want to show you.

I wonder if this could be Frank Lagasse’s mustache on the old man on the right.

The mustache  is seen again here.

I always thought the old man was Dennis Lagasse II. Now I am sure he is not.

The old man could be Frank Lagasse because one of his son was Bill Lagasse, and the caption with this picture says Bill Lagasse is on it.

One thing for sure, we will know for sure one of these days as well as all the names of all those people on that picture.

As a footnote to all this crazy mustache search.

I am still searching for whose mustache this is.

You know dear, one day he will find out who we are…

Unidentified Couple

This is going to be interesting.

This tintype picture was part of the lot Frank Archambeault sent me two weeks ago.

I started wondering who was this unidentified couple…

The young woman posing here seemed a bit familiar.

Sandy had sent me this picture of Sophie Archambeault in 2011.

She told me that Sophie Archambeault was married to Frank Lagasse (François-Xavier Lagacé) one of Dennis Lagasse II’s  brother. We already have a picture of Peter Lagasse and Dennis Lagasse on a park bench.

Now I am starting to wonder… if we have the same woman on both pictures since Frank told me that all the pictures he sent me were Archambeaults.

I am wondering…

I am still wondering…