Three more posts to go…

Three more posts to go before I reach 1300…
This is not by all means to go into the Guinness World Book of Records. I never thought back in July 2007 I would be writing about our ancestors or later about WW II veterans.
Our Ancestors isn’t my only blog.
Very few people know it.
Each blog is meant to preserve the past. I consider myself an amateur genealogist as well as an amateur historian. I can also be considered as an amateur archivist with old pictures I have collected since 2007.

Honoré Sauvé et Julie Leroux

Père et mère de Léon Sauvé, le père d’Euclide Sauvé – Father and mother of Léon Sauvé, the father of Euclide Sauvé

Old pictures deserve more than being in a landfill…
Writing about my ancestors led me to write about yours. It’s all about remembering our ancestors so future generations of amateur genealogists and amateur historians will benefit from all this research and all that my readers have shared with me.


This is post no. 1297…
Keep on sharing!

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Easter Sunday – Pamela Dubé

Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

MOTHER
PAMELA DUBE
1863 + 1946

Pamela Dubé was someone’s mother most people don’t remember except for a plaque laying on the ground in a cemetery…

I can’t always remember if it was at St. Joseph cemetery or at St. Thomas cemetery even if I went there three times with 3rd cousin Joe. I was looking for my great-grandparents’ grave which I have never found, but think they rest in peace with their son Dennis (Stanislas) Lagassey (Lagacé) and his wife Amanda Menard (Ménard).

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Meeting Joe when I embarked on this journey led me to Pamela Dubé in October 2012…

Cousin Joe surely remembers this headstone where Aurelia Dubé Moquin rests in peace.

Aurelia Mquin 1889-1920

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I wrote a few posts on Aurelia and her descendants. Pamela Dubé was her step-mother who most people don’t remember except for someone who wrote a comment last February.

Confused?

You shouldn’t be…

Aurelia Dubé

 

Intermission – The Carters

This was taken from a Website in 2011. In fact this post was written 7 years ago and was left dormant on Our Ancestors. It was about the Carters, but I can’t remember why I had written it.


Samuel Carter

Samuel Carter was born in London, England, around 1665. He was among the first to settle in Deerfield. On December 4, 1690, he married Mercy Brooks and they had six children before she died on January 22, 1700. He then married Hannah Weller on July 1, 1701, and by 1704 had added one more child to the family. Carter was absent during the 1704 attack on Deerfield. He returned to find his wife and three children killed and four children carried captive to Canada. In 1705, he moved to Norwalk, Connecticut, and in 1706, he married Lois Stenton. In 1708 his last child was born.

Hannah Weller Carter

Hannah was the daughter of John and Mary Weller. She was born on May 14, 1674, and married Samuel Carter on July 1, 1701, when she also took on the care of Samuel’s six children from his first marriage. She and Samuel had one living child together, named Hannah. Mrs. Carter was killed on the 5th day of the march to Canada.

Samuel Carter (Jr.)

Samuel was the son of Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. He was born on March 1, 1692, and was captured during the 1704 attack. He never returned, and nothing more is known about him.

Mercy Carter

Mercy was born on December 17, 1693, to Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. She was taken captive during the 1704 attack on Deerfield and adopted into a family in the Kanienkehaka village of Kahnawake. Eventually she married someone from that village. There is a story that two of her sons were sent to Deerfield to see where their mother was born.

When Mercy’s father died in 1728, he promised her 100 pounds if she and her family would live in Norwalk, Connecticut, for ten years. This is where he had settled in 1706. She chose not to do this; however, the two sons who were sent to Deerfield, also visited Mercy’s brother Ebenezer, in Connecticut, in 1751.

John Carter

John was the second son born to Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. He was born on January 22, 1695, and was taken captive during the 1704 raid. John’s new home was in Pointe-aux-Trembles, near Montreal, and his new name became Jean Chartier. In 1710 he was granted Canadian citizenship. The Reverend John Williams and Colonel Stoddard visited him in 1714, and he told them he greatly wished to return to Deerfield; but when the governor of Canada later asked him if he wished to be redeemed, he had changed his mind. In 1718, John was granted land in Riviere-des-Prairies and married Marie Courtemanche on October 27 of that same year. Together they had eleven children.

John’s father died in 1728 and willed him 500 pounds if he would live in New England for the rest of his life. He did not do this, but he did visit his brother, Ebenezer, twice, once in 1736, and again in 1751. John died on Aug. 4, 1772.

Ebenezer Carter

Ebenezer Carter was born on September 9, 1697, to Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. He was captured during the 1704 raid and was redeemed for 24 pounds in 1707. He lived with his father in Norwalk, Connecticut, until he later settled in New Canaan, Connecticut. In 1721, he married Hannah St. John, and they had seven children. In 1751, two of his sister Mercy’s sons came to visit him. Ebenezer died in July of 1774.

Thomas Carter

Thomas was the fourth son of Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. He was born on October 6, 1699, and was killed during the 1704 attack on Deerfield.

Marah Carter

Marah Carter was born on January 22, 1701, to Samuel and Mercy Brooks Carter. She was killed on February 29, 1704.

Hannah Carter (Jr.)

Hannah was the daughter of Samuel and Hannah Weller Carter. She was born on July 8, 1703, and died in 1704, on the second day of the march to Canada.


Maybe I wrote this to remember posting it some other day…

Intermission – About the Carters

Notes I had kept since 2011 from another Website.

John Carter alias Jean Chartier

Our English/French-Canadian Ancestor

Our Chartier ancestor (ancestor of our grandmother, Exilia Chartier) began life as John Carter on September 22, 1695 in Deerfield, Massachusetts. His parents, Samuel Carter and Mercy Brooks, daughter of William Brooks and Mary Burt, were married in Deerfield in December 1690. Samuel is generally believed to have been the son of Joshua Carter and and his wife Catherine, although there are some who believe he was “enticed away from London, England at 12 years of age and brought to Boston,” though this story has been called “a very wild fiction,” by James Savage in his Genealogical Dictionary of the first settlers of New England, Volume I (Boston 1860). Joshua Carter was killed along with Captain Lothrop in the victorious battle of the Indians at Bloody Brook, near Hadley, Massachusetts. In any case, Samuel’s first wife, Mercy, died on January 22, 1701, when John was 6 years old, and Samuel remarried Hannah Weller less than six months later.

At that time, the English, with the help of the Iroquois Indians, had been conducting very brutal raids on small towns around Quebec. In an attempt to dissuade further raids more than as retaliation, three secret raids were planned by the governor of Quebec, to take place at Deerfield, Massachusetts, Albany New York and Salmon River outside of Boston. Hertel de Rouville of Montreal was in command of the raid to take place at Deerfield. The raid began on the night of February 28, 1704, and on February 29 around 2:30 a.m., Hertel de Rouville led the raid on Deerfield, consisting of 200 Quebec militiamen along with 142 Quebec Indians. The whole population of Deerfield at that time was approximately 500. The Quebec troopers were trained to only kill in an emergency, but the Indians, with their ingrained war habits to kill women and children, could not be prevented despite orders to to the contrary. The raid involved the near-complete destruction of Deerfield. Captives were drawn out of their beds, generally half-naked, and were packed in to the Community Hall, where they were given snowshoes and all available garments. Altogether, the captives consisted of 111 people. There were also another 125 missing survivors, with 50 adults, so the casualties numbered about 250. Then, before sunrise, the entire troop with captives headed on a march to Montreal in the winter weather, with the first day’s march of at least 25 miles. At the time the Quebec troops with their captives departed Deerfield, the entire town was set on fire.

Among the captives, there were seven people from the Carter family. One brother of John Carter, Thomas Carter, age 5, was killed during the raid. At the end of the first day’s march on February 29, a captive made an attempt to escape. De Rouville gave notice that anybody else attempting to escape would be shot on sight. The very next evening, a shot was fired at John Carter’s stepmother, Hannah Weller Carter, and Marah Carter, age 3, became the victim instead. On March 2, Hannah Carter, age 7 months, who was the sole remaining child of Hannah Weller Carter, died of exposure to the cold weather. Then on March 5, near the icy side of Lake Champlain, Hannah Weller died. Of the original family of Samuel Carter, after a march of approximately 25 days, only four children reached Quebec: Samuel Jr., John, Mercy and Ebenezer. John Carter and his brothers, Samuel Jr. and Ebenezer were taken in by the Reverend Fathers Jesuits at their mission on the Prairies River, which was located at Sault-au-Recollet, close to Fort Lorette. John probably served the Jesuits until 1710 and there is strong evidence that he did accept his new religion and nationality. It is likely that some time during this period of time, he decided to change his name to Jean Chartier. Mercy Carter was raised by a girls’ mission in Sault St. Louis which was managed by a religious congregation of women.

In the meantime, back in Deerfield, John’s father, Samuel Carter, had been delayed while taking care of business at a distance too far for him to return to Deerfield on the same day. When he returned to Deerfield, he discovered that he had lost his entire family of eight people. It was somewhat of a miracle that, within the ruins of his village, his house had somehow been left standing and still exists today. Inside the house, he discovered the body of his 5-year-old son, Thomas Carter, on the stairway. He also discovered dead cattle, bullet marks, and general disorder. Surviving witnesses informed Samuel Carter of the events in Deerfield, and Samuel Carter began his search and efforts to repatriate his children.

In 1705, a Reverend Williams was one of the first to be set free. On his return, he told Samuel that Hannah had died and brought a full statement about all the others. From this time, Samuel made request after request to the local authorities to find a way to get his children back. Through diplomatic means, Governor Schuyller and Colonel Stoddard held a first meeting in Montreal in February 1707, where the Reverend and the Colonel were received by Governor Vaudreuil. They easily obtained release of Ebenezer Carter for a sum of 24 pounds. Ebenezer was very anxious to go home, but he was the only one. There was much celebration at the return of Ebenezer, but it was a joy mingled with sadness and regret over the three children who remained in captivity. Ebenezer, who was born in 1697, married Hannah St. John around 1720 in Norwalk Connecticut, and is said to have had a large family.

In 1705, Samuel Carter left Deerfield and went to New Cannan, Connecticut, a village in the nearby suburbs of Norwalk, where he lived to the end of his life. He married a third time to Lois Sention/St. John in 1706, and this union produced his last child, a daughter by the name of Lois.

Samuel did not give up trying to get the rest of his children back, and spent another seven years making requests to press his claim. In 1714, Reverend Williams went to Montreal to enter another plea. Samuel Carter, Jr. had just died in a drowning accident in the St. Lawrence River, and Mercy Carter, who had married an Indian from a local tribe, was now under the care of her husband. Reverend Williams returned to Samuel with the information that John, now known as Jean Chartier, was anxious to go back home. The governor ordered an open confrontation regarding this statement, whereupon Jean denied that he had made such a statement, adding that he was fully convinced of his new faith’s truthfulness and that, despite his great respect for his father, he wished to establish himself in Montreal.

On October 29, 1718, Jean Chartier married Marie Courtemanche, daughter of Antoine Courtemanche and Marguerite Vaudry, daughter of Jacques Vaudry and Jeanne Renaud, who came from LaRochelle, France. The marriage took place at the house of Jacques Gaudry in Pointe-aux-Trembles. Jacques Gaudry was married to Jeanne (Jane) Gillory, who also originated from Deerfield, Massachusetts. A witness to the marriage, Francoise (Frances) French, wife of Jean Debluy-dit-Larose, was also born in Deerfield.

At the time of his marriage, Jean Chartier received a grant of land from the Reverend Seigniors of Montreal within the limits of Riviere-des-Prairies. Jean’s land was later bought by Jean-Baptiste Chartier, son of Guillaume Chartier. His reason for selling the land was a new, larger grant of land at St-Antoine-on-the-Richelieu. The family moved there in 1728. He received another large grant of land in 1734, this time located at Contrecoeur.

Samuel Carter meanwhile no longer agreed with the aggressiveness against the Church of Rome as led by his religious congregation and appeared to accept the choice made by Mercy and Jean. He stated that if they should wish to establish themselves in Connecticut, he would grant them a large portion of his land and money, with absolute freedom to practice their newfound faith and beliefs. There is evidence that at least once before his death, Samuel was visited by two of Mercy’s sons and by two of Jean’s sons before his death in 1730. Jean himself came to Norwalk and visited his brother, Ebenezer, on two occasions, the first time in 1736 and later in 1751.

Between 1719 and 1734, Jean Chartier and Marie Courtemanche had nine children. Jean died on August 5, 1772 in St-Antoine-on-the-Richelieu at the age of 76.

Sources

The Chartier Families, Volume V, by Me Jean (Chartier) Robert, B.A., L.L.B.; pages 12-17; obtained through Vernon Chartier of the American Section of the Chartier Family Association. For more information on purchasing any of the Chartier Families, Volumes I-V, contact Vernon Chartier (vlchartier@transport.com)Descendents of Samuel Carter from Deerfield, Mass. and Norwalk, Conn;by Samuel Carter of Brooklyn, NY of the 6th generation, 1885. This booklet can be purchased from Higginson Book Company

23andMe – Epilogue

This is what I wrote Alyce this morning after she sent me what 23andMe had replied to her request for information.

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That settles it my dearest cousin.

We can continue on our journey together knowing 23andMe is just a tool like official documents, parish registers, headstones, censuses, old pictures, and hints provided by Ancestry.
23andMe will provide me with the opportunity to share what I know if someone contacts me, just like my blogs have since 2009.
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23andMe, Alyce and me…

I could have waited and posted this on April Fool’s Day.

Robert Miller fishing - Michigan  10 October 1954

It’s not about that picture of Robert J. Millier my first cousin twice removed.

Alyce and I had a little secret we did not want people to know. We don’t share any DNA! Complete strangers according to 23andMe!

BUT…

Now I know 23andMe is not foolproof having just made contact with a genuine 2nd cousin twice removed who has Italian ancestors who did not show up in her DNA test.

Furthermore I got too much DNA from German ancestors according to 23andMe.

So what about those Portuguese or Spanish ancestors that I was so excited about?

¿Y qué hay de esos antepasados portugueses o españoles?

And what about the Sound of Chewing?

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Where did some of my ancestors come from?

¿De dónde salieron algunos de mis antepasados?

I have no idea!
¡No tengo ni idea!

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Apart from listening to Carlos Jobim and Carlos Santana I had no idea I had ancestors that came from Spain or Portugal. I am all excited about this, and how Alyce and I are connected. One day I will tell you more about Alyce and I…

It’s our little secret.

Aparte de escuchar a Carlos Jobim y Carlos Santana, no tenía ni idea de que tenía antepasados de España o Portugal.

Estoy entusiasmado con todo esto y cómo Alyce y yo estamos conectados. Algún día te contaré más sobre Alyce y yo…

Es nuestro pequeño secreto.


Note

I have used an automatic translation machine.

Nos vemos la próxima vez.

Intermission – Saturday March 26, 1949

Revisiting the past with Lionel and a newspaper clipping dated March 26, 1949…

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Courtesy Lionel Lagasse via Dennis Lagasse IV

Everything is important when your looking for your ancestors.

An image of a headstone leading to my great-granduncle Joseph and his wife Edwina…

A visit to St. Thomas Cemetery where I met Aurelia Dubé…

A Google search where I found a link with distant relatives…

 

A group picture that helped me to find what had happened to someone’s father who went AWOL in 1917…

Pictures sent two years ago by Michael who was looking for his birthmother and wrote Alyce for help in 2011…

A picture of an ashtray to Levy Lagasse from cousin Aldei Lord from St. Hyacinthe who remembered…

Next time?

Life is full of surprises…

23andMe DNA Comparison

 

 

Breaking news!

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100 year-old negatives!

All from Lionel’s collection.

A few positives…

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Alice B. Myers on the left?

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Mostly unknow people with Amanda Menard on the far right with Dennis Lagassey III with his cigar?

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Bristol, Connecticut?
1920s?

Hint here?

Excerpt

Plainville’s Robertson Airport

Robertson Airport in Plainville services small-engine commercial and private aircraft. Founded in 1911, it is Connecticut’s oldest airfield. Originally consisting of little more than a meadow used by novice pilots in the early 20th century, the land was purchased by Stamford Robertson in 1941 for $5,000. Over the next 30 years, Robertson increased the acreage of the airfield, refined landing strips, and built permanent hangar space for aircraft.