My British Ancestors

Senior’s moments I guess.

My British genes come from Julie Leroux who is one of my eight maternal great-great-grandmothers.

Honoré Sauvé etJulie Leroux

Meet Julie Leroux once again with her husband Honoré Sauvé.

Honoré Sauvé et Julie Leroux

23andMe would have easily found her British as well as her German DNA markers if they had been in business in the late 1890s. Here’s her British lineage passing through Deerfield in the 1700s.

One of her ancestors is Sarah Allen who was captured there.

23andMe Julie Leroux British DNA

Her German DNA comes from Anne Marie Von Seck.

23andMe Julie Leroux German DNA

You can read her story in French on the the French version of Our Ancestors.

Maybe one day I will translate it for you.

This is post ??? and I haven’t started to write about this story yet.

Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

Wake-up time

The early bird gets the worm…
That’s moi!

wake-up time

I don’t intend to post all the results given by 23andMe here, but this one is quite special.

I found out who might have been my British-Irish ancestor!

MARTIN, ABRAHAM (dit “l’Écossais” or “Maître Abraham”), pilot; b. 1589 in France; d. 8 Sept. 1664 at Quebec.

Martin arrived in New France with his wife, Marguerite Langlois, her sister Françoise and brother-in-law Pierre Desportes (the parents of Hélène Desportes) about 1620. Martin may have been of Scottish descent or he might have used the sobriquet if he had been enrolled in military service or had been a member of an illegal organization: such names were used to avoid detection by officials looking for deserted soldiers or in case the records of an illegal organization were seized. It is also possible that he acquired the name because he had made several voyages to Scotland as a young man. There is some question as to whether Martin was really an official pilot or not, although he was referred to as “king’s pilot” in his own day. However, he did fish well down into the Gulf of St. Lawrence.

It is presumed that the Plains (or Heights) of Abraham are named after Martin. It is picturesquely said that the “Côte d’Abraham” was the path that Martin used to descend to the St. Charles River to water his animals. His property amounted to 32 acres in all, 12 received from the Compagnie de la Nouvelle-France in 1635 and 20 as a gift from Sieur Adrien Du Chesne, ship’s surgeon to Pierre Legardeur de Repentigny in 1645. This land was sold by the Martin family to the Ursulines in 1667. It is possible that this is the same Martin who was employed by Jean de Biencourt and Du Gua de Monts as navigator on the coast of Acadia, although he would have been very young at that time. When David Kirke captured Quebec in 1629 and left his brother Lewis as governor until 1632, Martin and his family stayed on. In his later years Martin fell in the estimation of his fellow citizens when he was accused of improper conduct with regard to a young girl in Quebec. He was imprisoned for this on 15 Feb. 1649.

As far as can be found from the records, Abraham Martin and Marguerite Langlois had nine or ten children. Anne Martin, born in France and married 17 Nov. 1635 to Jean Côté, was probably not Abraham’s daughter. Eustache, baptized 24 Oct. 1621 and the godson of Eustache Boullé, was the first child born in Canada. Marguerite, born 4 Jan. 1624 and married 22 May 1638 to Étienne Racine, had many descendants, including the two bishops Racine*. Hélène, born 21 June 1627, was a god-daughter of Samuel de Champlain. She married first Claude Étienne in 1640 and on 3 Sept. 1647 Médard Chouart Des Groseilliers. Charles-Amador*, born 7 March 1648, the godson of Charles de Saint-Étienne de La Tour, was the second Canadian-born priest. It is possible that Brother Dominique Scot, spoken of in the Jesuit Relations as having gone to the Huron country as a young man, was also a son. It is also possible that a young man who is mentioned as having been in the Huron country at the same time (1634–35) was Eustache Martin.

Henry B. M. Best

Collection de manuscrits relatifs à la Nouv.-France, I, 61. JR (Thwaites). R-B. Casgrain, “La fontaine d’Abraham Martin et le site de son habitation,” RSCT, 2d ser., IX (1903), sect.i, 145–55. Dionne, Champlain. A. G. Doughty and G. W. Parmelee, The siege of Quebec and the battle of the Plains of Abraham (6v Quebec, 1901), II, 289–309. John Knox, An historical journal of the campaigns in North America for the years 1757, 1758, 1759 and 1760, ed. A. G. Doughty (3v., Champlain Soc., VIII-X, 1914–16), II, 97n. J. M. LeMoine, The Scot in New France, an ethnological study (Montreal, 1881). É.-Z. Massicotte, “Au sujet d’Anne Martin,” BRH, XXVIII (1922), 116–17. Léon Roy, “Anne Martin, épouse de Jean Côté,” BRH, XLIX (1943), 203–4. P.-G. Roy, La ville de Québec, I, II. Tanguay, Dictionnaire.


Abraham Martin ( – 1664)
9th great-grandfather
Marguerite Martin
daughter of Abraham Martin
Noël Racine
son of Marguerite Martin
Étienne Racine
son of Noël Racine
Agnès Racine
daughter of Étienne Racine
Thérèse Paré
daughter of Agnès Racine
Suzanne Racine (1798 – )
daughter of Thérèse Paré
Philomène Dupont (1842 – 1878)
daughter of Suzanne Racine
Édouard Métayer (1869 – 1928)
son of Philomène Dupont
Juliette Métayer (1905 – 1962)
daughter of Édouard Métayer
Léo Lagacé (1927 – 1995)
son of Juliette Métayer
Pierre Lagacé
You are the son of Léo Lagacé
It’s now 6h35…

Sunday Morning – Remembering Amanda Menard

From the personal collection of Lionel Lagasse
Many people have been remembering Amanda Ménard through old photos on Our Ancestors since 2009.


Amanda was my grandfather’s sister-in-law.

My grandfather Leo Senior never talked to me about his sister-in-law Amanda Ménard nor about his older brother Dennis who had died in 1922.

Dennis Lagasse III
In fact, I can’t recall my grandfather ever spoke to me about his family. I can’t even recall he ever spoke to me once when I was a child.

Maybe that’s the reason I have been writing to much on Our Ancestors.
My grandfather died on January 1st, 1964.

Léo Lagacé Senior
This is how he spoke to me about his family for the first time in his life back in 2009.
acte de deces leo lagace senior
That document was shared by Val d’Or Lagacé who, at that time, was the secretary for L’Association des familles Lagacé et Lagassé. L’Association has now a Facebook page. They still use La Gâchette as André Mignier dit l’Agacé’s nickname.

Last week I wrote them about it on their Facebook page.

Getting back to Amanda, I wrote a lot about her and her 12 children since 2009.
Dennis Lagassey family










Alice Rose






Levi Napoleon










Amanda Ménard


Dennis Lagassey III

I intended to be posting only on Sunday mornings, thus the title of this post.

However there are so many stories to be told like the story about this other Amanda Menard.

headstone Amanda Menard Plante

And how I met Pamela Dubé in 2012.
Pamela Dubé 1863-1946

How I met the Dalys in 1937…


And how I met Georges Dubé and his wife Angèle Miville-Deschênes on Facebook.


Car Story

Sometimes my research will take an unexpected turn on the road to your ancestors.
I am no car expert, but I know where to turn to for advice. This car is either a 1935 or 1936 Ford Sedan V-8.

Hi Pierre
Your car is probably a 1935 Ford. Some 1936 models were a copy of the 35. I base myself on the style of the ventilation slots on the side of the hood and on the little grille that we see. Another element: the bottom of the front wing. It was an extremely popular car, especially because of its V-8 engine.


Lionel had identified who was who and also had told his son Dennis where the photo was taken.

The farm Levi rented became the Bristol Central High School at 480 Wolcott St Bristol, CT 06010. My dad says they lived there until he was 5 or 6 years old, so that would be 1937 at the latest?

That picture was taken either in 1937 or a little earlier.
I had search for more information about the three children to find how old they were. Then something happened on Google when I typed in…

Dorothy Daly Diana Dube!/Obituary
But there was more unexpected turns on the road leading to your ancestors…
On Facebook!

To be continued…